[Ansteorra] Newbies - Gulf Wars Camping - Shower Section/Comments only

Mon Feb 4 16:01:02 PST 2013

Heilsa,

I cut out everything but the shower section/comments only. I went back 
re-read the comments made by the Ladies and Lords who took the time to
respond back 2010.

I included all of their comments as is except where noted that I paraphrased
the comments to reduced the over all length.

I found that many of the comments involving showers could applied more
to other events than Gulf Wars.

The leading sentences in the comments on Showers all state not to hook up
your own garden hose for your shower and why at Gulf Wars.

Then the comments goes on to describe what type of showers that 
individual Ladies and/or Lords have actually used at other events I 
thought it was worth while to included those comments as well for those 
events that were not
Gulf Wars.

I was hoping that it was clear on this subject about Showers and Gulf Wars.

Did I missed something?

Michael Kettering

On 2/4/2013 10:42, Doug Copley wrote:
> Great information, thank you for sharing!
>
> One clarification - on the showers - it not that it is not a good idea to
> but it is that you are NOT ALLOWED to hook up a hose that goes directly to
> a shower outlet. If you have any questions, comments, or concerns on this,
> please contact me.
>
> Vincenti
> GW XXII Land Coordinator for Ansteorra
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Michael Catron <mikecat375 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Heilsa,
>>
>> Below is some things everyone needs to know about Gulf Wars - it is long
>> about
>> 12 pages and it is composed of previous emails from other members in the
>> Kingdom of
>> Ansteorra. The good Ladies and Lords who wrote their thoughts I give word
>> praise to each
>> for their thoughts look for their SCA names and date at the end of each of
>> the comments.
>> I put this together 3 years just prior to Gulf Wars in 2010.
>>
>> Michael Kettering
>>
>> Gulf Wars Camping
>>
>>
>>
>> With Gulf Wars looming on the horizon in a month, I thought I'd post a few
>> questions
>> about camping in very cold/hot and perhaps wet weather, and hopefully get
>> some
>> answers from folks to prepare those on our list for whom this is their
>> first war:
>>
>> They have onsite showers and toilets.
>> They installed better water heaters last year. Now, the water actually
>> gets hot and stays that way through most of the shower.:) They are well lit and
>> have power outlets. Our bath house had two showers each and about 5 unisex toilets.
>> There are also porta-potties but they had queues constantly and they were
>> smelly. Be sure to get EVERYTHING out of your car that you will need. Cars must be
>> moved early in the week and it is a good mile's hike to the car parking area. We
>> forgot some things in the car that first day. After trekking out there once, we
>> made sure that did not happen again.:)     Lady Cait O'Hara Camping at the End of
>> the World withLoch  Ruadh 2/01/2010
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Showers: Site Shower Houses andCamp  Showers  only --
>>
>> Please use the Showers already available on site.     Michael Kettering
>> 02/02/2010.
>>
>>
>> Gulf Wars is definitely not a place you want to be hooking up a garden
>> hose to the water supply for real-time shower purposes.     Cynric 02/02/2010
>>
>> If you have never been to Gulf Wars you need to know that you cannot just
>> hook up a shower to the local water supply. It does not have the pressure to sustain a shower at the times you will need it because everyone else will need one then, too.   Camp showers are required to have a reservoir of water for their use to avoid such a drain on the system. The needs of dinner time alone will stress the water
>> pressure, you don't want to be in the shower and soapy when the pressure drops or a line gets broken (which happens frequently). The reservoir need not be complicated.
>> Use a large rubbermaid tub you fill from a garden hose, or a plastic
>> barrel or a large ice chest. You can use a battery operated pump to pump the water to the shower and through a propane camp shower heater. Combine this with a sink and a large sump and you have on demand luxury!
>>   Get it all at WalMart camping supplies or other camping stores such as
>> Academy.     Claire 02/02/2010
>>
>>
>>
>> I build and maintain the Ansteorran shower at Pennsic. For years I used a
>> 40 gallon propane
>> water heater on concrete blocks, but last Pennsic I switched to an
>> on-demand heater.
>> Only a fraction of the cost, and infinite hot water as long as the propane
>> holds out.
>> I can't recommend it highly enough. I should have made it clear that I'm
>> just extolling
>> the virtues of on-demand heating vs conventional tanked hot water heaters.
>> Gulf Wars is
>> definitely not a place you want to be hooking up a garden hose to the
>> water supply for
>> real-time shower purposes.     Cynric 02/02/2010
>>
>>
>> I am pleased we are such receptacles of knowledge and different ways of
>> solving problems.
>> I do have another suggestions, last year, our house had 2 showers in camp.
>> Using propane
>> heaters with hot water on-demand that pumps water from a reservoir.
>> In a large camp, it is not a luxury, but a necessity. I have a large camp
>> to run and with
>> a shower in camp I can shower between cooking and serving feast.     In
>> Service to the House, the Shire & the Kingdom, and to the Pursuit of True
>> Honor,
>> Lady Eithne ingen meic Cináeda GrandeDamme FalconRose Keep at Loch
>> Callendre,Kingdom  of
>> Ansteorra, SCA    02/02/2010
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Anything else forgotten that might be good to share with newcomers
>> preparing for their
>> first camping? (Hillary)
>>
>>
>> Here are a few links that might help in your preparations from a variety
>> of great
>> SCA war websites: (Hillary)
>>
>> http://www.gulfwars.org/rules.**html <http://www.gulfwars.org/rules.html>
>>
>> http://www.gulfwars.org/faq.**html <http://www.gulfwars.org/faq.html>
>>
>>
>> Camping ideas from other great wars, these may not apply to Gulf Wars:
>> (Hillary)
>>
>> http://www.estrellawar.org/**Portals/EstrellaWar/articles/**PACK-LST.pdf<http://www.estrellawar.org/Portals/EstrellaWar/articles/PACK-LST.pdf>
>>
>> http://www.estrellawar.org/**PreparingToAttend/Weather.aspx<http://www.estrellawar.org/PreparingToAttend/Weather.aspx>
>>
>> http://www.pennsicwar.org/**penn39/GENERAL/pack.html<http://www.pennsicwar.org/penn39/GENERAL/pack.html>
>>
>> http://www.pennsicwar.org/**penn39/GENERAL/guide.html<http://www.pennsicwar.org/penn39/GENERAL/guide.html>
>>
>>
>> Happy planning and packing, (Hillary)
>>
>> On 2/1/2013 20:53, Jennifer Kroyer wrote:
>>
>>> I am new to the SCA and have a few comments in regarding to my newbie
>>> status.It  Is not for my lack of trying to become involved, But I feel
>>> that
>>> the older SCA members who have been involved for many years do not embrace
>>> the new members,
<snip>
>>
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