[Ansteorra] on leaving the SCA--

[STEPHEN STEGER]

Well Said, HL Detlef

Lord Stephan

Through passion I gain power,
Through power I gain strength,
Through strength I gain victory,
Through victory I gain life,
Through life I gain passion.


--- On Tue, 2/5/13, HerrDetlef <herrdetlef at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: HerrDetlef <herrdetlef at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] on leaving the SCA--
> To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Date: Tuesday, February 5, 2013, 6:52 PM
> Master Cynric, what I am about to
> write is not a response to your post but
> to the thread in general.
> 
> To paraphrase many a marshal: Center up. We're getting close
> to the edge.
> The ways in which we apply the term "Nazi" are a subject for
> discussion
> best left elsewhere. The subject at hand is leaving the
> SCA--or not. I hope
> I'm not being rude in suggesting we stick to that subject.
> Discussions
> around the label "Nazi" rarely end well.
> 
> In the meantime, the subject at hand is one that involves
> many hurt
> feelings. How about we acknowledge those hurt feelings
> without being
> sarcastic or passive-aggressive about it? A little mutual
> respect never
> hurt anybody. It seems, in a way, that we're all after the
> same
> thing--the highest return on our time/money/energy
> investment. Let's
> address that: how much one gets out of the SCA depends on
> how much one puts
> into it. Is it a profitable investment of our
> time/money/investment? How
> can we make it profitable enough to justify the investment?
> 
> The SCA offers a diversity of levels of involvement. Not
> everybody can go
> to war. Not everybody can build a period tent or a suit of
> armor--or wants
> to. Not everybody can or wants to travel to weekend events,
> and not
> everybody can or wants to participate in local meetings
> during the week.
> The people who can and want to probably will. Those who
> don't have no call
> to be looked down on. You take what you want, and you give
> what you're
> willing. As long as you make an attempt at period garb and
> keep the Burger
> King bag off of the table at feast, everything else should
> be gravy. Not
> everybody will be a Lion of Ansteorra, nor will everybody be
> a Peer of the
> Realm or win a crown tournament--and that's okay. And some
> people aren't
> satisfied with an award or even a grant of arms. There's a
> lot to see and
> do in the SCA. Nobody should feel pressured to do
> everything.
> 
> While I'm rambling, I just thought of something else that's
> been running
> across my mind lately. Many people who play SCA are titled
> nobility; they
> wear coronets to events and are addressed as anything from
> "Your
> Excellency" to "Your Majesty." Many more are not. But here's
> something we
> keep forgetting. The people who are NOT titled nobility are
> not peasants,
> and they should have no reason to feel that they are.
> Everybody who plays
> SCA--from the newcomer to the Crown--can be addressed as "My
> Lord" and "My
> Lady," as these are not titles that can only be given by the
> Crown but
> marks of courtesy. Everybody who plays SCA is an aristocrat,
> unless one
> deliberately chooses a non-aristocratic persona--which is
> that person's
> prerogative. No matter how many times we have won or
> attended a crown
> tournament, we are all descended from Diana Listmaker,
> Siegfried von
> Hoflichskeit, and Fulk de Wyvern. We should all treat each
> other like
> royalty (shy of the way Henry II treated his wife Eleanor!).
> Being treated
> like royalty makes one feel welcome, appreciated, valued,
> respected. Who
> doesn't want to return to an environment where he or she
> feels those
> things? If we treated each other like royalty, and if we
> treated newcomers
> like royalty, what a (an even more) wonderful place this
> would be!
> Newcomers, old-timers, and everybody in between--we all need
> each other,
> and we should all appreciate and nurture each other.
> 
> In everything we do in the SCA, we should always ask
> ourselves this
> question: are we encouraging others to play more, or are we
> encouraging
> others to play less? Let's strive to encourage each other to
> play
> more--within our means, of course.
> 
> Now that I've come to the conclusion of all my abstract
> philosophizing, how
> do we turn these ideas into action?
> 
> Yours in these Current Middle Ages,
> Detlef von Marburg, CSM
> 
> 
> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Robert G. Ferrell <rgferrell at gmail.com>wrote:
> 
> > On 2/5/2013 5:35 PM, Bree Flowers wrote:
> >
> > We don't call our friends whores, despots or murderers,
> so why do we
> >> call any of them nazis? I mean unless they actually
> were members of
> >> that political movement and participated in the
> mass genocides, in
> >> which case have at it.
> >>
> >
> > Honestly, calling someone a "Nazi" is slander/libel.
> These were some of
> > the most pathologically evil people who've ever lived.
> >
> > If you want to call me a 'period enthusiast,' that's
> OK.
> >
> > 'Lion' works, too.
> >
> > Cynric
> >
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