[Ansteorra] ideas... long

Wed Jan 30 17:57:48 PST 2013

greetings

I'm sorry, but if anyone starts coming up to me at an event and complaining 
that my tunic is the wrong shade of color, or the wrong thread count, etc. I 
will be gone for good .
I have already been told that a person " was surprised " to learn that I 
have a grant level award and was still wearing sweat pants and old tunics to 
events.

but to be honest , I am normally busy helping somewhere , on something , 
from the time I get to an event until I leave ( except for feast, where I 
enjoy sitting and relaxing for a bit )
and could never convince myself that spending some of my utility money on 
fancy garb for court was a good idea, especially since I'm normally busy 
during court anyway . ( I may not have the best garb, but as far as I know , 
sweaty workers are period : )
the way finances have been the last few years , I have had to choose between 
keeping my membership current ( and keeping my marshal , officer, and 
authorizing marshal status active ) or going to more  events .
I chose to stay current , and keep serving the kingdom , the society, the 
missile community and the local group . even though this has meant missing 
people and events that I used to attend on a regular basis .
the society rules state that we need to " make an effort " it does not say 
we need to " be completely authentic " . so by all means cover the ice 
chest, use a mug, leave the phone / laptop, etc. in the car, hang some 
banners from your pop up shade pavilion, cover your Coleman camp chairs with 
something, but please don't follow the authenticity at any cost path, as I 
am certain that will chase off more people than it attracts ...

anyway , I work at events , most every event I go to I at least run around 
asking where or how I can help ( normally working gate or marshaling, or 
teaching ) in the past 10 years , ( since returning to ansteorra )
I have been a deputy baronial officer for 1.5 terms *,a baronial officer 3 
terms , a regional officer 1 term, and a kingdom deputy 2.5 terms .sometimes 
, more than one office at a time ,
( *  1 term = 2 years , so in the past 10 years I have held approximately 16 
years worth of offices : )
oh and I have sponsored the baronial missile ranges on my property for the 
entire 10 years : )  it's what I do , I need to feel useful , so I go and I 
work , sometimes I get a thank you , sometimes I go away never knowing if 
what I did was even noticed by anyone, but at least I feel like I 
accomplished something , and was able to help keep this going for one more 
event anyway : /

Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun .
Arthur
ps, sorry didn't mean for this to become a rant : (

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Brown" <lddevin03 at yahoo.com>
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] ideas... long

> They are much stricter when it comes to what they allow. If you are a 
> Civil War reenacter and you walk into a camp with a coke can...you will be 
> kindly asked to either put it in a proper period container or leave.
> Now, I understand that it takes money, but we need to be as close to 
> period as we can. Cover the mundane.
>
> HL Devin
> David Brown
>
> There is no better therapy than a dogs love.
>
> Irena Fridenberg <rubberduckiemom at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I'm not against FB at all.  I love that I can communicate with my
>>friends at anytime.  I do think it has had an effect on what the SCA
>>is now. I love that the SCA has embraced websites and electronic
>>newsletters. It is good for many reasons.  There are many reasons
>>people have given that they don't enjoy the Society like the old days.
>>
>>Some of the reasons are red tape, paper trails and releases.  We just
>>have accept that these are the realities of the Society now.  We
>>really can't change what the BoD feels is best for the group so we
>>find ways to work around it.
>>
>>Start asking the other reactor groups to keep their memberships and
>>attendance up. Surely there are things they are doing that we aren't.
>>None of us are going to have the magic answer, but if we acknowledge
>>the problems maybe we can find some of the possible solutions.
>>
>>I know I want to see the magic back and wish the attendance go up.
>>I'm glad we are talking about it.
>>
>>Katrine
>>
>>Barone Orlando Di Gilead <orlando at agilejedi.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>The SCA in AS 10 was what it had to be then and the SCA now is what it has
>>to be now. I, for one, was glad to see the SCA embrace Facebook recently.
>>It lends our group some legitimacy amongst the younger generation and 
>>keeps
>>their attention in the same way email lists  (like this one) did in the
>>past. I fear that we must stay relevant and embrace new technologies...we
>>do style ourselves as the "modern" middle ages :-)
>>
>>Orlando
>>
>>
>>Checkout my blog @ http://blog.agilejedi.com
>>Checkout my homepage @ http://www.agilejedi.com
>>Follow me on Twitter @ http://twitter.com/theagilejedi
>>
>>
>>On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Susan Tillery 
>><sutillery at sbcglobal.net>wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you and well said.  There is a certain glamour when we first join
>>> that
>>> begins to fray over time.  Costuming is "much" better now than it once
>>> was.  It
>>> is possible to buy medieval looking tents now and people do.   One of 
>>> the
>>> reasons I find things so different now is because I am different.
>>>
>>> AEla
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Chris Zakes <dontivar at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
>>> Sent: Wed, January 30, 2013 2:37:29 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] ideas... long
>>>
>>> At 12:55 PM 1/30/2013, you wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> FWIW, that is not a new concern. I've been told that starting around AS 
>>> 2,
>>> people were complaining that the SCA wasn't like it was in "the good old
>>> days."
>>>
>>> Stop and think about this for a moment, folks. Did the SCA seem like a
>>> wonderful, magical, chivalrous place when you joined, but after a few
>>> years the
>>> shiny started wearing off--people weren't as courteous, they made less
>>> effort to
>>> hide the mundane stuff, and it started to feel like a modern party in
>>> medieval
>>> clothes? I think that hits everybody, no matter when you joined.
>>>
>>> I've been in the SCA since AS 10. My first event was in a park on the
>>> outskirts
>>> of San Antonio. The event site was maybe thirty yards down a trail from 
>>> the
>>> parking area, and it really felt like walking back in time, leaving the
>>> 20th
>>> century and going into the Middle Ages. Afterwards, when I got home, I 
>>> can
>>> recall just sitting there with a big grin on my face for a couple of 
>>> hours.
>>> But looking back today, *all* the tents were modern camping tents, the
>>> pavilions
>>> were blue tarps, most of the fighters were wearing freon can helms, many
>>> were
>>> wearing carpet armor, and most of the clothing would scream "newbie" to
>>> our eyes
>>> now. In many ways the SCA *is* doing a better job of playing the Middle
>>> Ages
>>> than we did 37 years ago. I agree that camera-phones can be obtrusive, 
>>> but
>>> even
>>> in AS 10 we had folks with flash cameras. I can remember a prominent
>>> knight--who
>>> was a big Aggie football fan--coming onto the field between rounds at 
>>> one
>>> of the
>>> Queen's Grace tournaments (held Thanksgiving weekend) and announcing the
>>> score
>>> of the UT-Aggie football game (granted, he *did* say "Shadowlands 17, 
>>> Bryn
>>> Gwlad
>>> 10", but everybody knew what he was talking about.)
>>>
>>> All that being said, I *do* agree that we could stand to cut down on the
>>> modern
>>> elements. Go easy on updating every single thing at an event or in court 
>>> to
>>> Twitter and Facebook as soon as it happens (or at least do it out of the
>>> public
>>> view) cover your coolers, put your drinks in period containers, if 
>>> you're
>>> using
>>> a modern camping chair, cover it, as well. But y'know, most of those
>>> suggestions
>>> were being made twenty or thirty years ago, too.
>>>
>>>         -Tivar Moondragon
>>>         Fossil-in-residence
>>>
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