[Ansteorra] ideas... long

David Brown lddevin03 at yahoo.com
Wed Jan 30 18:05:30 PST 2013 

I have no problem with sweat pants...but cell phones in court really upset me. I am far from period, but I make the attempt. 

David Brown

There is no better therapy than a dogs love.

"Ld.blackmoon" <ld.blackmoon at cox.net> wrote:

>greetings
>
>I'm sorry, but if anyone starts coming up to me at an event and complaining 
>that my tunic is the wrong shade of color, or the wrong thread count, etc. I 
>will be gone for good .
>I have already been told that a person " was surprised " to learn that I 
>have a grant level award and was still wearing sweat pants and old tunics to 
>events.
>
>but to be honest , I am normally busy helping somewhere , on something , 
>from the time I get to an event until I leave ( except for feast, where I 
>enjoy sitting and relaxing for a bit )
>and could never convince myself that spending some of my utility money on 
>fancy garb for court was a good idea, especially since I'm normally busy 
>during court anyway . ( I may not have the best garb, but as far as I know , 
>sweaty workers are period : )
>the way finances have been the last few years , I have had to choose between 
>keeping my membership current ( and keeping my marshal , officer, and 
>authorizing marshal status active ) or going to more  events .
>I chose to stay current , and keep serving the kingdom , the society, the 
>missile community and the local group . even though this has meant missing 
>people and events that I used to attend on a regular basis .
>the society rules state that we need to " make an effort " it does not say 
>we need to " be completely authentic " . so by all means cover the ice 
>chest, use a mug, leave the phone / laptop, etc. in the car, hang some 
>banners from your pop up shade pavilion, cover your Coleman camp chairs with 
>something, but please don't follow the authenticity at any cost path, as I 
>am certain that will chase off more people than it attracts ...
>
>anyway , I work at events , most every event I go to I at least run around 
>asking where or how I can help ( normally working gate or marshaling, or 
>teaching ) in the past 10 years , ( since returning to ansteorra )
>I have been a deputy baronial officer for 1.5 terms *,a baronial officer 3 
>terms , a regional officer 1 term, and a kingdom deputy 2.5 terms .sometimes 
>, more than one office at a time ,
>( *  1 term = 2 years , so in the past 10 years I have held approximately 16 
>years worth of offices : )
>oh and I have sponsored the baronial missile ranges on my property for the 
>entire 10 years : )  it's what I do , I need to feel useful , so I go and I 
>work , sometimes I get a thank you , sometimes I go away never knowing if 
>what I did was even noticed by anyone, but at least I feel like I 
>accomplished something , and was able to help keep this going for one more 
>event anyway : /
>
>Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun .
>Arthur
>ps, sorry didn't mean for this to become a rant : (
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "David Brown" <lddevin03 at yahoo.com>
>To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 7:09 PM
>Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] ideas... long
>
>
>> They are much stricter when it comes to what they allow. If you are a 
>> Civil War reenacter and you walk into a camp with a coke can...you will be 
>> kindly asked to either put it in a proper period container or leave.
>> Now, I understand that it takes money, but we need to be as close to 
>> period as we can. Cover the mundane.
>>
>> HL Devin
>> David Brown
>>
>> There is no better therapy than a dogs love.
>>
>> Irena Fridenberg <rubberduckiemom at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I'm not against FB at all.  I love that I can communicate with my
>>>friends at anytime.  I do think it has had an effect on what the SCA
>>>is now. I love that the SCA has embraced websites and electronic
>>>newsletters. It is good for many reasons.  There are many reasons
>>>people have given that they don't enjoy the Society like the old days.
>>>
>>>Some of the reasons are red tape, paper trails and releases.  We just
>>>have accept that these are the realities of the Society now.  We
>>>really can't change what the BoD feels is best for the group so we
>>>find ways to work around it.
>>>
>>>Start asking the other reactor groups to keep their memberships and
>>>attendance up. Surely there are things they are doing that we aren't.
>>>None of us are going to have the magic answer, but if we acknowledge
>>>the problems maybe we can find some of the possible solutions.
>>>
>>>I know I want to see the magic back and wish the attendance go up.
>>>I'm glad we are talking about it.
>>>
>>>Katrine
>>>
>>>Barone Orlando Di Gilead <orlando at agilejedi.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>The SCA in AS 10 was what it had to be then and the SCA now is what it has
>>>to be now. I, for one, was glad to see the SCA embrace Facebook recently.
>>>It lends our group some legitimacy amongst the younger generation and 
>>>keeps
>>>their attention in the same way email lists  (like this one) did in the
>>>past. I fear that we must stay relevant and embrace new technologies...we
>>>do style ourselves as the "modern" middle ages :-)
>>>
>>>Orlando
>>>
>>>
>>>Checkout my blog @ http://blog.agilejedi.com
>>>Checkout my homepage @ http://www.agilejedi.com
>>>Follow me on Twitter @ http://twitter.com/theagilejedi
>>>
>>>
>>>On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Susan Tillery 
>>><sutillery at sbcglobal.net>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you and well said.  There is a certain glamour when we first join
>>>> that
>>>> begins to fray over time.  Costuming is "much" better now than it once
>>>> was.  It
>>>> is possible to buy medieval looking tents now and people do.   One of 
>>>> the
>>>> reasons I find things so different now is because I am different.
>>>>
>>>> AEla
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>> From: Chris Zakes <dontivar at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
>>>> Sent: Wed, January 30, 2013 2:37:29 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] ideas... long
>>>>
>>>> At 12:55 PM 1/30/2013, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> FWIW, that is not a new concern. I've been told that starting around AS 
>>>> 2,
>>>> people were complaining that the SCA wasn't like it was in "the good old
>>>> days."
>>>>
>>>> Stop and think about this for a moment, folks. Did the SCA seem like a
>>>> wonderful, magical, chivalrous place when you joined, but after a few
>>>> years the
>>>> shiny started wearing off--people weren't as courteous, they made less
>>>> effort to
>>>> hide the mundane stuff, and it started to feel like a modern party in
>>>> medieval
>>>> clothes? I think that hits everybody, no matter when you joined.
>>>>
>>>> I've been in the SCA since AS 10. My first event was in a park on the
>>>> outskirts
>>>> of San Antonio. The event site was maybe thirty yards down a trail from 
>>>> the
>>>> parking area, and it really felt like walking back in time, leaving the
>>>> 20th
>>>> century and going into the Middle Ages. Afterwards, when I got home, I 
>>>> can
>>>> recall just sitting there with a big grin on my face for a couple of 
>>>> hours.
>>>> But looking back today, *all* the tents were modern camping tents, the
>>>> pavilions
>>>> were blue tarps, most of the fighters were wearing freon can helms, many
>>>> were
>>>> wearing carpet armor, and most of the clothing would scream "newbie" to
>>>> our eyes
>>>> now. In many ways the SCA *is* doing a better job of playing the Middle
>>>> Ages
>>>> than we did 37 years ago. I agree that camera-phones can be obtrusive, 
>>>> but
>>>> even
>>>> in AS 10 we had folks with flash cameras. I can remember a prominent
>>>> knight--who
>>>> was a big Aggie football fan--coming onto the field between rounds at 
>>>> one
>>>> of the
>>>> Queen's Grace tournaments (held Thanksgiving weekend) and announcing the
>>>> score
>>>> of the UT-Aggie football game (granted, he *did* say "Shadowlands 17, 
>>>> Bryn
>>>> Gwlad
>>>> 10", but everybody knew what he was talking about.)
>>>>
>>>> All that being said, I *do* agree that we could stand to cut down on the
>>>> modern
>>>> elements. Go easy on updating every single thing at an event or in court 
>>>> to
>>>> Twitter and Facebook as soon as it happens (or at least do it out of the
>>>> public
>>>> view) cover your coolers, put your drinks in period containers, if 
>>>> you're
>>>> using
>>>> a modern camping chair, cover it, as well. But y'know, most of those
>>>> suggestions
>>>> were being made twenty or thirty years ago, too.
>>>>
>>>>         -Tivar Moondragon
>>>>         Fossil-in-residence
>>>>
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