[Ansteorra] OT: Queen Elizabeth II - is NOT the rightful heir to the throne of England

[Peter Holland]

my only comment they do not go back far enough
how is Edward III legit if his farther only loved men
Edward III is a Mortimer
so bastards abound
at the end of the day it means very little Elizabeth Windsor is Queen
and a son of the Spencer line is next in line
so yeah war of the roses

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Tim McDaniel <tmcd at panix.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 31 Jan 2013, Hillary Greenslade <hillaryrg at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Had to share, stubbled on this YouTube video of a documentary from May,
>> 2013,
>> titled: 'Queen Elizabeth II - is NOT the rightful heir to the throne of
>> England'.
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=z5fIwLo1Trs<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5fIwLo1Trs>
>>
>
> My first thought was "Do we have to spray for Jacobites again?".
>
> I am NOT trying to slag you, Hillary!  It's fine that you mention it.
> The problem is that he's wrong in practice, and since practice
> actually controls royal successions, ...
>
>  Runs under an hour
>>
>
> Luckily, Googling quickly provided his theory, so I don't have to
> watch all 48:18.  It's actually an infestation of mutated
> quasi-Ricardians.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Alternative_successions_of_**
> the_English_crown<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_successions_of_the_English_crown>
>
> And http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Edward_IV_of_England#**Controversy<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_IV_of_England#Controversy>has
> rebuttals.  "Under English common law a child born to a married woman
> is presumed to be her husband's, although the husband may contest the
> presumption.  Also, even if he were illegitimate, Edward still had a
> direct (albeit legally barred) blood-claim to the throne through his
> mother Cecily, who was a great-granddaughter of Edward III through
> John of Gaunt and his illegitimate daughter (Cecily's mother) Joan
> Beaufort, Countess of Westmorland."  And even whether the barring was
> legal and the illegitimacy legal is questionable.
>
> Certainly in practice, Edward IV and his heirs by birth and/or law
> have usually had the overwhelming acceptance of the people in
> practice, which is really the true source of monarchy, despite Tony
> Robinson's nonsense of "The monarchy rests entirely on blood and
> inheritance".  I am minded of the motton on the inside of the crowns
> of Caid: "You rule because they believe".  It could just as justly be
> engraved inside the crowns of the UK.
>
> Danihel Lincolnia
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