[Ansteorra] Royal Hunter

[Marisa Burbidge]

My apologies, Maestro Vincenti, but I have to disagree with you there. Sir
Alexis's original reply was curt and implied disdain over the decree of
Their Majesties. Those who believe that what is termed "political
correctness" can also mean "respect for others" or "being considerate"
stopped using the term decades ago, and its present-day connotations are
almost always negative and meant to insult. To imply that our group is
moving away from historical accuracy can also be seen as scornful. There is
nothing civil about his first reply and nothing about it that presents an
opening for a reasoned discussion into the matter. As for what he has been
doing during the pandemic, well, he implies that the kingdom and the SCA as
a whole has been thoughtlessly infantilizing their members, rather than
seriously considering the welfare and health of tens of thousands of people
in a multitude of communities, as opposed, in his case, to a few score whom
I assume all live in the same general area. No matter which way they had
come down, I recognize that at both a Society and Kingdom level it was a
very difficult decision they had to make and that it required careful
thought and consideration, and I have respect for those who have to make
such tough decisions.

Though of course it is his right, I worry that a Lion of Ansteorra would so
publicly ridicule the Crown of Ansteorra.

I thank Master Robin for educating us in the historical usage of "hunter"
vs "huntsman" - something good has come of this.

Lady Aline Hopton

On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 9:15 PM Doug Copley via Ansteorra <
ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org> wrote:

> Sir Alexis was not being out of line or rude, he was pointing out what they
> have been doing outside the SCA while the pandemic has been going on. He
> was only discussing a concern about changing things that it may not always
> be for the best.
>
> It might be best to create a new thread, but the comments were civil and
> were directed towards the subject at hand.
>
> Eleanor, I would have to disagree with you. It seems that you are making
> assumptions that the decision is correct and that Alexis is incorrect to
> even question it.
>
> Most of this is opinion based, not based on facts that can be quantified
> and verified.
>
> Vincenti
>
> On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 4:31 PM Hugh & Belinda Niewoehner via Ansteorra <
> ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org> wrote:
>
> > Filling up mail boxes???  This is the most traffic we've seen on the
> > list in probably the last decade.   : )
> >
> > This list _has_ been used for official pronouncements, but should it
> > be?  Isn't that what the Ansteorra Announce was created for?  This list
> > used to be an open forum for the free exchange of ideas..."a Kingdom
> > living room" as it was described in the past.
> >
> > Sometimes things have gotten a little heated, but it all worked out and
> > we got to hear other opinions than our own.  The rule was just try to
> > keep it civil.
> >
> > We have been playing since 1977 (1987).  As Alexis accurately points out
> > 1) Not all of us care to participate in Face Book where certain voices
> > can be censored rightly or wrongly and 2) If you actually stop and think
> > about it, historically, changing nomenclature to be gender/neutral or
> > "more inclusive" has in practice proven to be more exclusionary.  People
> > get tired of being forced to bow to the wishes of a small minority and
> > as Alexis points out, go away.  Fear of unintentional offense and
> > ostracism for using the wrong phrase/word---which can change by the
> > moment--is tiring at best.
> >
> > and the SCA has _so_ departed from teaching actual historical practices
> > many moons ago.  Maybe we should redefine the group as "teaching crafts
> > of the middle ages."
> >
> > Damon (and Ismet)
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/27/2021 1:46 PM, Social Media Deputy via Ansteorra wrote:
> > > Do not continue to
> > > fill people's inboxes with personal disagreements.
> >
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> Vincenti
> What I’ve dared, I’ve willed; and what I’ve willed, I’ll do!
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