And personally I find it ABSOLUTELY OFFENSIVE that a self proclaimed OFFICER of the ANSTEORRAN NAVY would proclaim himself a PIRATE...and fight about it on a public forum with one of our Duchesses... man... did you fall off the clue bus... L DeerSlayer Are you talking about here and now or some other time? Everyone I think of this forum as an "out of persona" situation. Unless someone gives me the heads up with some form of formal greeting I think we are just people talking about what we do in our favorite club. I love the game of the SCA. I love playing my role but that role of Duchess is just that. I play my part and you play your part and we make the Magic of the kingdom of Ansteorra. When I am doing business at business meetings or discussing something off stage I am just me. I am just another member of the club no better or no worse. I feel my years in the SCA and my success may earn me a little respect but my title do not. I have seen in groups that don't really play persona the blending of the titles and rank of the games affecting the working relationships of people in the organization the SCA. I prefer a clean differencing of the Historical Game we try to recreate and pins and needles working part of how we make things happen. I like to be On-stage or Off-stage. Right now I am Off Stage. Viscountess Megan--Lion of Ansteorra has a saying, "You can either talk about persona or be in persona. You can not do both." Willow or if you prefer Lanphier Taylor _____________________________________________________________ Click to get a free auto insurance quote from top company at discount http://track.juno.com/s/lc?u=http://tagline.untd.us/fc/CAaCX09tdEeG0KgSRT0xxOvSzq3zcWTA/