Here is one of those Victorian books everyone warns you about. I found it fairly correct and it tells you where it got a lot of its stuff (no real footnote) It really gives some good insights into the French medieval world. Also the data is in one place. I wouldn't use it as documentation for A&S because artisans look down on anything Victorian but it will give you a feel for Medieval France. This site has the illustration which seem to be taken form period sources. http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/1/0/9/4/10940/10940-h/10940-h.htm#ch14 enjoy Willow _____________________________________________________________ Click for dental plans with huge savings, top service and coverage http://track.juno.com/s/lc?u=http://tagline.untd.us/fc/Ioyw6iieipr31f7IlcwJ8P19Rf4HiTVGqDUyEmaGJFUudHSHLViW2F/