ARCH - Champions History

[Fearghus]

The tourney in question was the one Ramón wanted to run with a combination
of combat archers and heavy fighters. It was to take place on a field laid
out like a tourney field. The biggest problem with a tourney of this type is
spectator safety. If it is going to be a melee then that is what it is.
Combat archers going at it one on one could cause some safety concerns,
nothing that could not be overcome but some concerns never the less.

Ld Fearghus MacKenna
Deputy Earl Marshal for Archery Ansteorra
Man at Arms to Centurion Airaklee Wolf

----- Original Message -----
From: <baron at elfsea.ansteorra.org>
To: <ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 3:58 PM
Subject: RE: ARCH - Champions History


> Well, when we say a thing is against kingdom law, we must
> very clear about what "it" is.  I don't know what was
> proposed for Spring Faire that the Earl Marshal forbade.
>
> But you can certainly have competitions that involve
> combat archers shooting at each other or at fighters,
> simply by defining it as "melee" rather than "tourney",
> thus getting around the prohibition against missile
> weapons in the lists.
>
> - Galen
>
> Quoting "Duke, Wes" <WDuke at healthaxis.com>:
>
> > I didn't say it hasn't been done, just that it is against Kingdom Law.
> >
> > Fearghus
> >
> > Wes Duke
> > Systems Analyst
> >
> > wduke at HealthAxis.com
> > 817-255-3240
> > Pager 817-418-2612
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bob Dewart [SMTP:gilli at seacove.net]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 3:48 PM
> > To: ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org
> > Subject: Re: ARCH - Champions History
> >
> > Hummmmm.  Well, we sent  Mistress Stella an excellant news paper
> > picture of
> > her with a bow on the field at a War Chieftain / Caviler of the
> > Bridge a few
> > years back.
> >
> > Gilli
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Duke, Wes <WDuke at healthaxis.com>
> > To: 'ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org'
> > <ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
> > Date: Thursday, July 20, 2000 3:41 PM
> > Subject: RE: ARCH - Champions History
> >
> >
> > >Maybe, but we had such a tourney shot down by Kief for Springfaire.
> > It is
> > >also against Society Law.
> > >
> > >Fearghus
> > >
> > >Wes Duke
> > >Systems Analyst
> > >
> > >wduke at HealthAxis.com
> > >817-255-3240
> > >Pager 817-418-2612
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bob Dewart [SMTP:gilli at seacove.net]
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 3:36 PM
> > > To: ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org
> > > Subject: Re: ARCH - Champions History
> > >
> > > That's not exactly true.
> > >
> > > One case in point is Middleford's Warchieftan / Caviler of the
> > >Bridge.
> > > Combat archery is used there and has been for years.  Also I
> > believe
> > >some of
> > > the progressive melees have used combat archery also.  I think the
> > >intent
> > > was not to have combat archery involed in Crown Tournaments.
> > >
> > > Another thought is this.  When the rules were written, it wasn't
> > >invisioned
> > > that archers would be shooting at other archers with no other
> > >combatants on
> > > the field.  This is some new ground to be broken here.  I think we
> > >can do
> > > it.  And I think we can do it safely with spectators.
> > >
> > > I also think that the combat side of the house needs a little TLC
> > >too.
> > >
> > > Gilli
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Duke, Wes <WDuke at healthaxis.com>
> > > To: 'ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org'
> > ><ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
> > > Date: Thursday, July 20, 2000 3:25 PM
> > > Subject: RE: ARCH - Champions History
> > >
> > >
> > > >It is also forbidden by Kingdom law to use missile weapons in a
> > >tournament
> > > >setting.
> > > >
> > > >Fearghus
> > > >
> > > >Wes Duke
> > > >Systems Analyst
> > > >
> > > >wduke at HealthAxis.com
> > > >817-255-3240
> > > >Pager 817-418-2612
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Bob Dewart [SMTP:gilli at seacove.net]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 3:20 PM
> > > > To: ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org
> > > > Subject: Re: ARCH - Champions History
> > > >
> > > > HE Rumil said something like this:
> > > > >A possible second step would be to talk to the Crown about
> > >another
> > > >archery
> > > > >championship for combat archery instead of target archery.
> > Call
> > >it
> > > >the
> > > > >Archer Guardian or some such.  His/her job will be to quickly
> > > >eliminate
> > > > >foreign archers on the battle field who seek to put arrows in
> > our
> > > >King.
> > > > >(How rude!)  Obviously that would be a combat archery
> > tournament.
> > > >I
> > > > >foresee a list with combat archers shooting and dodging arrows.
> > >I
> > > >would
> > > > >hate to be a spectator for such a tournament ( i.e. Why is
> > there
> > >an
> > > >arrow
> > > > >in my mug? ). :)
> > > >
> > > > You know, he's got a point here.  Why not?  We do have light
> > and
> > > >heavy
> > > > arrows, so to speak.  This  could be very do able.  We could do
> > an
> > > >Archer's
> > > > Duel.  Or we could actually suit up and go at each .
> > > >
> > > > I like it!!   Oh no, that means it's doomed.  :(
> > > >
> > > > Gilli
>
>
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