ARCH - Champions History

Bob Dewart gilli at seacove.net
Thu Jul 20 19:08:03 PDT 2000


Screens of netting like that on the side panels of a GP Med Liner make very
effect protection against incoming arrows.  I have a large  screen plus
Middleford has several.  Combat arrows will not go threw them and they don't
obstruct the few.  Thus no safety problems.

Gilli

-----Original Message-----
From: Fearghus <lordfearghus at home.com>
To: ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org <ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
Date: Thursday, July 20, 2000 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: ARCH - Champions History


>The tourney in question was the one Ramón wanted to run with a combination
>of combat archers and heavy fighters. It was to take place on a field laid
>out like a tourney field. The biggest problem with a tourney of this type
is
>spectator safety. If it is going to be a melee then that is what it is.
>Combat archers going at it one on one could cause some safety concerns,
>nothing that could not be overcome but some concerns never the less.
>
>Ld Fearghus MacKenna
>Deputy Earl Marshal for Archery Ansteorra
>Man at Arms to Centurion Airaklee Wolf
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <baron at elfsea.ansteorra.org>
>To: <ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
>Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 3:58 PM
>Subject: RE: ARCH - Champions History
>
>
>> Well, when we say a thing is against kingdom law, we must
>> very clear about what "it" is.  I don't know what was
>> proposed for Spring Faire that the Earl Marshal forbade.
>>
>> But you can certainly have competitions that involve
>> combat archers shooting at each other or at fighters,
>> simply by defining it as "melee" rather than "tourney",
>> thus getting around the prohibition against missile
>> weapons in the lists.
>>
>> - Galen
>>
>> Quoting "Duke, Wes" <WDuke at healthaxis.com>:
>>
>> > I didn't say it hasn't been done, just that it is against Kingdom Law.
>> >
>> > Fearghus
>> >
>> > Wes Duke
>> > Systems Analyst
>> >
>> > wduke at HealthAxis.com
>> > 817-255-3240
>> > Pager 817-418-2612
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Bob Dewart [SMTP:gilli at seacove.net]
>> > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 3:48 PM
>> > To: ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org
>> > Subject: Re: ARCH - Champions History
>> >
>> > Hummmmm.  Well, we sent  Mistress Stella an excellant news paper
>> > picture of
>> > her with a bow on the field at a War Chieftain / Caviler of the
>> > Bridge a few
>> > years back.
>> >
>> > Gilli
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Duke, Wes <WDuke at healthaxis.com>
>> > To: 'ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org'
>> > <ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
>> > Date: Thursday, July 20, 2000 3:41 PM
>> > Subject: RE: ARCH - Champions History
>> >
>> >
>> > >Maybe, but we had such a tourney shot down by Kief for Springfaire.
>> > It is
>> > >also against Society Law.
>> > >
>> > >Fearghus
>> > >
>> > >Wes Duke
>> > >Systems Analyst
>> > >
>> > >wduke at HealthAxis.com
>> > >817-255-3240
>> > >Pager 817-418-2612
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: Bob Dewart [SMTP:gilli at seacove.net]
>> > > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 3:36 PM
>> > > To: ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org
>> > > Subject: Re: ARCH - Champions History
>> > >
>> > > That's not exactly true.
>> > >
>> > > One case in point is Middleford's Warchieftan / Caviler of the
>> > >Bridge.
>> > > Combat archery is used there and has been for years.  Also I
>> > believe
>> > >some of
>> > > the progressive melees have used combat archery also.  I think the
>> > >intent
>> > > was not to have combat archery involed in Crown Tournaments.
>> > >
>> > > Another thought is this.  When the rules were written, it wasn't
>> > >invisioned
>> > > that archers would be shooting at other archers with no other
>> > >combatants on
>> > > the field.  This is some new ground to be broken here.  I think we
>> > >can do
>> > > it.  And I think we can do it safely with spectators.
>> > >
>> > > I also think that the combat side of the house needs a little TLC
>> > >too.
>> > >
>> > > Gilli
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: Duke, Wes <WDuke at healthaxis.com>
>> > > To: 'ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org'
>> > ><ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
>> > > Date: Thursday, July 20, 2000 3:25 PM
>> > > Subject: RE: ARCH - Champions History
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >It is also forbidden by Kingdom law to use missile weapons in a
>> > >tournament
>> > > >setting.
>> > > >
>> > > >Fearghus
>> > > >
>> > > >Wes Duke
>> > > >Systems Analyst
>> > > >
>> > > >wduke at HealthAxis.com
>> > > >817-255-3240
>> > > >Pager 817-418-2612
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > From: Bob Dewart [SMTP:gilli at seacove.net]
>> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 3:20 PM
>> > > > To: ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org
>> > > > Subject: Re: ARCH - Champions History
>> > > >
>> > > > HE Rumil said something like this:
>> > > > >A possible second step would be to talk to the Crown about
>> > >another
>> > > >archery
>> > > > >championship for combat archery instead of target archery.
>> > Call
>> > >it
>> > > >the
>> > > > >Archer Guardian or some such.  His/her job will be to quickly
>> > > >eliminate
>> > > > >foreign archers on the battle field who seek to put arrows in
>> > our
>> > > >King.
>> > > > >(How rude!)  Obviously that would be a combat archery
>> > tournament.
>> > > >I
>> > > > >foresee a list with combat archers shooting and dodging arrows.
>> > >I
>> > > >would
>> > > > >hate to be a spectator for such a tournament ( i.e. Why is
>> > there
>> > >an
>> > > >arrow
>> > > > >in my mug? ). :)
>> > > >
>> > > > You know, he's got a point here.  Why not?  We do have light
>> > and
>> > > >heavy
>> > > > arrows, so to speak.  This  could be very do able.  We could do
>> > an
>> > > >Archer's
>> > > > Duel.  Or we could actually suit up and go at each .
>> > > >
>> > > > I like it!!   Oh no, that means it's doomed.  :(
>> > > >
>> > > > Gilli
>>
>>
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