ARCH - Champions History

[Earl Albrecht]

Could you give me some more info on these screens?  How large are the holes
and where did you get them?  This archer duel thing sounds great, but I want
to make sure to protect the spectators.

Erik the Black
(Earl Albrecht)
Legio Australis
Archery Marshal, La Marche Sauvage
Kingdom of Ansteorra

"The Norse ideal was a man of open, generous disposition, a man imbued with
qualities of compassion and kindness, not ruthless but firm and fair,
even-tempered but capable of passion, physically accomplished and strong in
a fight, but not a bully."

Magnus Magnusson

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Dewart" <gilli at seacove.net>
To: <ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: ARCH - Champions History


> Screens of netting like that on the side panels of a GP Med Liner make
very
> effect protection against incoming arrows.  I have a large  screen plus
> Middleford has several.  Combat arrows will not go threw them and they
don't
> obstruct the few.  Thus no safety problems.
>
> Gilli
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fearghus <lordfearghus at home.com>
> To: ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org <ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
> Date: Thursday, July 20, 2000 4:50 PM
> Subject: Re: ARCH - Champions History
>
>
> >The tourney in question was the one Ramón wanted to run with a
combination
> >of combat archers and heavy fighters. It was to take place on a field
laid
> >out like a tourney field. The biggest problem with a tourney of this type
> is
> >spectator safety. If it is going to be a melee then that is what it is.
> >Combat archers going at it one on one could cause some safety concerns,
> >nothing that could not be overcome but some concerns never the less.
> >
> >Ld Fearghus MacKenna
> >Deputy Earl Marshal for Archery Ansteorra
> >Man at Arms to Centurion Airaklee Wolf
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <baron at elfsea.ansteorra.org>
> >To: <ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
> >Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 3:58 PM
> >Subject: RE: ARCH - Champions History
> >
> >
> >> Well, when we say a thing is against kingdom law, we must
> >> very clear about what "it" is.  I don't know what was
> >> proposed for Spring Faire that the Earl Marshal forbade.
> >>
> >> But you can certainly have competitions that involve
> >> combat archers shooting at each other or at fighters,
> >> simply by defining it as "melee" rather than "tourney",
> >> thus getting around the prohibition against missile
> >> weapons in the lists.
> >>
> >> - Galen
> >>
> >> Quoting "Duke, Wes" <WDuke at healthaxis.com>:
> >>
> >> > I didn't say it hasn't been done, just that it is against Kingdom
Law.
> >> >
> >> > Fearghus
> >> >
> >> > Wes Duke
> >> > Systems Analyst
> >> >
> >> > wduke at HealthAxis.com
> >> > 817-255-3240
> >> > Pager 817-418-2612
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Bob Dewart [SMTP:gilli at seacove.net]
> >> > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 3:48 PM
> >> > To: ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org
> >> > Subject: Re: ARCH - Champions History
> >> >
> >> > Hummmmm.  Well, we sent  Mistress Stella an excellant news paper
> >> > picture of
> >> > her with a bow on the field at a War Chieftain / Caviler of the
> >> > Bridge a few
> >> > years back.
> >> >
> >> > Gilli
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Duke, Wes <WDuke at healthaxis.com>
> >> > To: 'ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org'
> >> > <ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
> >> > Date: Thursday, July 20, 2000 3:41 PM
> >> > Subject: RE: ARCH - Champions History
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >Maybe, but we had such a tourney shot down by Kief for Springfaire.
> >> > It is
> >> > >also against Society Law.
> >> > >
> >> > >Fearghus
> >> > >
> >> > >Wes Duke
> >> > >Systems Analyst
> >> > >
> >> > >wduke at HealthAxis.com
> >> > >817-255-3240
> >> > >Pager 817-418-2612
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: Bob Dewart [SMTP:gilli at seacove.net]
> >> > > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 3:36 PM
> >> > > To: ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org
> >> > > Subject: Re: ARCH - Champions History
> >> > >
> >> > > That's not exactly true.
> >> > >
> >> > > One case in point is Middleford's Warchieftan / Caviler of the
> >> > >Bridge.
> >> > > Combat archery is used there and has been for years.  Also I
> >> > believe
> >> > >some of
> >> > > the progressive melees have used combat archery also.  I think the
> >> > >intent
> >> > > was not to have combat archery involed in Crown Tournaments.
> >> > >
> >> > > Another thought is this.  When the rules were written, it wasn't
> >> > >invisioned
> >> > > that archers would be shooting at other archers with no other
> >> > >combatants on
> >> > > the field.  This is some new ground to be broken here.  I think we
> >> > >can do
> >> > > it.  And I think we can do it safely with spectators.
> >> > >
> >> > > I also think that the combat side of the house needs a little TLC
> >> > >too.
> >> > >
> >> > > Gilli
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: Duke, Wes <WDuke at healthaxis.com>
> >> > > To: 'ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org'
> >> > ><ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
> >> > > Date: Thursday, July 20, 2000 3:25 PM
> >> > > Subject: RE: ARCH - Champions History
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > >It is also forbidden by Kingdom law to use missile weapons in a
> >> > >tournament
> >> > > >setting.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Fearghus
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Wes Duke
> >> > > >Systems Analyst
> >> > > >
> >> > > >wduke at HealthAxis.com
> >> > > >817-255-3240
> >> > > >Pager 817-418-2612
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > From: Bob Dewart [SMTP:gilli at seacove.net]
> >> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 3:20 PM
> >> > > > To: ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org
> >> > > > Subject: Re: ARCH - Champions History
> >> > > >
> >> > > > HE Rumil said something like this:
> >> > > > >A possible second step would be to talk to the Crown about
> >> > >another
> >> > > >archery
> >> > > > >championship for combat archery instead of target archery.
> >> > Call
> >> > >it
> >> > > >the
> >> > > > >Archer Guardian or some such.  His/her job will be to quickly
> >> > > >eliminate
> >> > > > >foreign archers on the battle field who seek to put arrows in
> >> > our
> >> > > >King.
> >> > > > >(How rude!)  Obviously that would be a combat archery
> >> > tournament.
> >> > > >I
> >> > > > >foresee a list with combat archers shooting and dodging arrows.
> >> > >I
> >> > > >would
> >> > > > >hate to be a spectator for such a tournament ( i.e. Why is
> >> > there
> >> > >an
> >> > > >arrow
> >> > > > >in my mug? ). :)
> >> > > >
> >> > > > You know, he's got a point here.  Why not?  We do have light
> >> > and
> >> > > >heavy
> >> > > > arrows, so to speak.  This  could be very do able.  We could do
> >> > an
> >> > > >Archer's
> >> > > > Duel.  Or we could actually suit up and go at each .
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I like it!!   Oh no, that means it's doomed.  :(
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Gilli
> >>
> >>
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