ARCH - A Question

Dewart, Charles R. --G3 Contractor (Anteon Corp) Charles.Dewart at
Fri Apr 27 11:16:15 PDT 2001

Folks this is the part of the whole subject we can talk about for a Loooong
time.  Some will agree and some won't.  Personally, I think it's the wrong
solution.  However, bottom line is if the BoD doesn't overturn the SEM
ruling, and I wouldn't hold my breath there, WE are stuck with it.  After a
point even I saw the writing on the wall.

Now there's lots of folks out there in this great kingdom of ours who are
all set to help us out here.  I think the only question we all need to
answer is "Am I as an archer going to continue to give fire support to my
kingdom during the war?".  That's a question we'll all have to answer for
our self.

If your answer is yes I'm going to continue to shoot combat arrows for my
kingdom; then great.  There's still lots we can do while we're waiting on
that final decision.  However, if you answer is no; and you want to sell
your stuff, let me know.  I'll see what I can do about either buying it
myself or finding someone else to.

IMHO this particular solution was designed to hurt combat archery.  It is my
desire to do all I can to keep it alive and strong in this Kingdom.  But I'm
only one dude.  And even with all the auctions in the world I can't keep it
going if our archers lose heart.  We are not alone in the dark.

At my arrow shoots, we'll be working on arrows in th evening.  We may not
know exactly what the back end will look like; but the fron part stays the


-----Original Message-----
From: Khailil The Sarclander [mailto:wayneman at]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 12:37 PM
To: ansteorra-archery at
Cc: Alexandra Falconham
Subject: Re: ARCH - A Question

   I do not dispute that there is a safety issue.  And yes, you are correct
in the tone of my E-mails.  I personally would never want to cause undo harm
to anyone.  I just believe more research could of been done, before this
very costly provision came down to the populace.  Other alternatives could
have been explored.   I just feel the most inefective resolution was
choosen.  One alternative idea is replacing the knock feather with a piece
of tubing large enough not to penatrate the faceplate of the helm. Was this
considered?  I don't know.  This would inhibit arrow flight as much as the

    I have been to many events and and more offtend someone breaks a thumb.
No changes have been made because of this, but it is far more command than a
eye injury.   Of course I would trade a busted thumb for an Eye injury any
day. That is not the point I am trying to make.

   It just the powers at large more quickly and swiftly on this subject.  No
vote, No alternative.


Khailil ibn cassiam ibn Habibi Al hammar.
Kight's marshall, Bjornsborg.
Squire to Sir Emrys of Shaunnon

----- Original Message -----
From: <ironwyrm at>
To: <ansteorra-archery at>
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: ARCH - A Question

> Good Lord Khailil,
> I can't help but notice the tone of your e-mails and do request that you
> and our fellow combat archers do carefully consider what we all are
> arguing for.  I also went thru the same disbelief, anger, and despair of
> the ruling, but after considering that this is a safety measure to
> prevent the possible loss of an eye of one of our friends, I have come to
> look upon the ruling in a different perspective.
> Ask yourself, would you want to be the archer who fired the arrow that
> was involved in such an accident?  Even if you had followed all the
> rules, would that lessen the guilt you might feel at your arrow being the
> one that cost someone their sight?
> Yes the ruling will be a difficult one to comply with, and yes it will be
> costly, and yes it change combat archery as we know it.
> But I now see it as a small price to pay to prevent the loss of someone's
> sight, friend or foe.
> Just a little food for thought!
> In service,
> Ld. Wm. Ironwyrm
> Marshal of Archers Barony of the Steppes
> On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:10:28 -0500 "Khailil The Sarclander"
> <wayneman at> writes:
> >        Now that we have adopted these new missle requirments, are the
> > other
> > kingdoms following suit?  Will we be the only kingdom with the super
> > slow
> > arrows?
> >
> >        I was standing next to and witnessed one of the eye injuries
> > at Gulf
> > War.  The ANSTERORRAIN fighter was stuck in the eye by an fiberglass
> > crossbow bolt.  It had only two fleches and a baldar tip.  The bolt
> > had
> > struck his sword and wrapped around into his eyeslot.
> >
> >        So my other question is, which projectiles cause injuries?
> > Has any
> > testing been done on the bounce back potentail of different
> > projectiles?
> >
> >
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