ARCH - Royal Huntsman

Tue Apr 3 14:20:44 PDT 2001

If I can play devil's advocate for a moment I'll point out one thing without even thinking about motives for keeping Queen's Champion a seperate event.

One event, hosted by a single group.  Gives the Kingdom a certain revenue based on a percentage of the profits.  This event might be a huge event and take in a considerable ammount but the host group WILL have to get a percentage.  Figure all of the regular heavies, lights, bards, Archers, and Equestrians will be there.  It could easily be an 1000 person event  the kingdom will get a nice percentage of that as it is a kingdom event(I wanna say 30%?).  9 events that are Kingdom events will still draw a good number of regular people plus the specialty group maybe around 250 people .  Bam  the kingdom just got 30% of the equivalent of a 2000+ person event instead of 30% of a single 1000 person event.

Then there's the consideration that you really sometimes have to spread the Kingdom events around so perhaps some of the smaller areas get a chance at hosting a larger event and so the Crown has an excuse to go there and see a few hundred instead of only a hundred or so.

All of these are simply opinions and are not offered as motives or explainations for the basting the Eadric got in private to his suggestion.

In Service,
     Wilim
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Bob Dewart" <gilli at seacove.net>
Reply-To: ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 15:08:47 -0500

>I see, I need to get back on that list.
>
>Kigdom Law starts out with a blank page.  Then someone starts adding things
>to it.
>
>That same withing six weeks could be added to any of the Champion events.
>In fact it would be better to have a separte "Crown's Champions" tourny.
>But they won't want another event to raise money for the Kingdom.
>
>But until it makes it's way into Kingdom law, we're just a bunch
>of----------------.
>
>Gilli
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mills, Scott" <Scott.Mills at compaq.com>
>To: <ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 2:26 PM
>Subject: RE: ARCH - Royal Huntsman
>
>
>> Oh please don't go there.
>>
>> I just got Royally beat up on the Redtape list last week over this.  Got
>the
>> bruises to prove it.
>>
>> Obviously Queens Champion is special.  It is protected by kingdom law.  It
>> is the only such champion event that gets that special kinda treatment in
>> kingdom law.  Law says that It shall be held each reign and that it shall
>be
>> held no later than 6 weeks after coronation.
>>
>> I suggested that we reserve dates on the Kingdom Calendar for Royal
>> Champions other than just Queens Champion or perhaps we have a single
>"Royal
>> Champions" event where all the Royal champions are chosen on a single
>> weekend.  I was speaking not just out of concern for Royal Huntsman but
>Also
>> Lancer, Bard, and those other that often get overlooked and tacked onto
>> other events with little notice AFTER the Royal progress is announced.  I
>> maintained that IF these other events were to flourish and the communities
>> grow then there should be some additional support from the Kingdom and
>> Crown.
>>
>> In short I got told that the Royal Champion events other than Queens did
>not
>> deserve their own date on the calendar and that one big event where they
>> would all be chosen would not happen.  HRH Larissa said that she would
>never
>> consider sharing the Queens Champion day with any other Royal Championship
>> activity period and end of subject.
>>
>> Even though it was bad on the Redtape list, I got a lot of privately
>> addressed of what was basically hatemail for even suggesting that we were
>> worthy of the same consideration that Queens Champion is.
>>
>> All that said, Master Richard did volunteer that he would start putting in
>> his monthly column a listing of all the events that he needs bids for and
>> list all of these other Royal Championships in that list.
>>
>> In short, if WE the archery community want the Royal Huntsman tourney to
>> happen regularly and to be included on the calendar and some notice given
>> the WE are going to have to work with our own local branches and get them
>to
>> agree to sponsor the Royal Huntsman events.  We need to do this well in
>> advance and be prepared AT EACH CROWN TOURNAMENT to present a bid to the
>> Kingdom Seneschal and TRH for the Huntsman Tourney in the next reign.
>That
>> way while they are working out their Royal Progress they can consider the
>> Royal Huntsman and award the tourney to someone.
>>
>> In Service,
>>
>> Eadric
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dewart, Charles R. --G3 Contractor (Anteon Corp)
>> Subject: RE: ARCH - Royal Huntsman
>>
>>
>> Say, speaking of progress and that sort of thing, why don't we sorta kinda
>> give HRH Duncan a nugge to start thinking now about when They would like
>to
>> do it when They become Their Majesties?
>>
>> Has there been any move to normalize when the Royal Huntsman will be
>chosen?
>> Like King's Champion is chosen the day of Coronation, Queen's Champion is
>> chosen 3 weeks after Coronation.
>>
>> Yea, it just got a whole light lighter in here.  Oh, there's a light bulb
>> over my head.  :)  Why don't we do it just like Queen's Champion on say
>the
>> 5th weekend after Coronation.  We could also conduct a Mini Academy of the
>> Bow at the same time.  It would work out so that one would be in the
>middle
>> of the season and one just before Gulf War(which I think would be a really
>> good thing).
>>
>> What do you all think?
>>
>> Gilli
>>
>>
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