[Ansteorra-archery] You want fries with that?

[Bob Dewart]

And I might add, almost every Crown is a little different on how they want
the recommendations.  Some like a petition style while others prefer each
person to make there own comments.

The more people who make recommendations, the better.  I can only take some
small partial credit for 12 of those names on the two lists.  However, I'm
working on adding a couple more.

Yeap, you got me too on that horse thing.

Gilli

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rumil Fletcher" <rumil at prodigy.net>
To: <ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] You want fries with that?


> >Unbelievable,  there hasn't been a single archery or archery related
> >thistle awarded in two years, is that correct?  Just off the top of my
> >head, I can name four good gentles (one in my own group, and three
> >outside) that need to be submitted for that award.
> >
> >It looks like the same old story to me, unless we archers do it
> >themselves it's just not going to get done.
>
>
> Well, of course.  When was the last time you recommended someone for
> an equestrian award?  Never, I expect.  And that is appropriate since
> you are not involved in equestrian.  Of course award recommendations
> for archery awards should come from those in the field.  And when was
> the last time you recommended someone for an archery award?  In the
> last few years, I have recommended exactly two people for awards
> related to archery (a King's archer and a Star of Merit), and both
> were awarded.  So get busy.  Recognize your fellow archers.  Write
> those recommendations.
>
> Here's a tip for writing recommendations.  Get a consensus among your
> fellows.  Get several people to agree on a recommendation and all of
> you write your recs at the same time, preferably about 2 to 3 weeks
> before an event that you know the person is going to be at.  Give
> specific reasons why that person needs that award.  Don't just say,
> "She is involved in archery and goes to lots of events."  Say
> instead, "She has two students that she has been working with on a
> weekly basis, makes her own arrows, and has won the following two
> tournaments."  Give the Crown something they can say about that
> person when they make the award.
>
> It also helps if you have that award yourself, but is not a
> requirement.  If you get half a dozen of your friends to recommend
> someone for a Sable Thistle for archery, and there are among that
> group someone already holding a Sable Thistle, and one or two King's
> Archers, that improves the chances the award will be made.  It also
> helps a lot if you can get the Landed Baron or Baroness over the
> group the person live in to submit that recommendation along with
> yours.
>
> Don't expect the impossible.  Recommending an archer for a Centurion
> is probably a waste of time.  The centurions are, if not a polling
> order, at least very close to it, and they are not going to recognize
> archers in their order.  So if you want to recommend someone for a
> grant in archery, make sure it is a Star of Merit (for service
> through teaching, holding multiple archery offices, etc.) or an Iris
> of Merit (for skill in making equipment and teaching).
>
> Timing is important.  As I mentioned above, the Crown needs the
> recommendations in hand two to three weeks before the event the
> person will be at.  Be sure to tell the Crown the date and event the
> person will be at so that they can get the award scroll and regalia
> made and to the proper event at the proper time.  If you leave this
> information out, the chances go almost to zero as the Crown does not
> have time to research it for you.  They also need plenty of advance
> notice so they can make a decision, and for the Sable Scroll to have
> time to finish the scroll and get it to the Crown in time for the
> Crown to get it to the appropriate Court.  If you make your
> recommendation five months ahead of time, they might forget about it.
> If you make it one week before the event, that leaves insufficient
> time to get everything done.  If you make it for an event in the next
> reign, consider copying the recommendation to the Crown Prince and
> Princess as well, as they will be the one's making the award.  (Don't
> ignore the current Crown on next reign awards.  Very bad form!)
>
> And whatever you do, do not discuss specific awards and people on
> this list or any other public forum.  Discuss the people you are
> recommending privately.  Such discussions absolutely should not be in
> the public eye.
>
> So get busy, write those recs for your four good gentles.  Get others
> to do the same.  Get them the recognition they deserve.  You can't
> expect someone who is not in the archery community to know what
> archers do unless you tell them.
>
> Rumil Fletcher
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