ARCH - Interesting

Duke, Wes WDuke at aegonusa.com
Mon Feb 5 16:33:15 PST 2001


I will make this happen, but as of now my ruling is that we use the most
simplest way. 28 inches from the nock to the back of the head. I will see
that the next edition of the participants hand book reflects this.

Lord Fearghus MacKenna
Kingdom Archery Marshal



	-----Original Message-----
	From:	Eadric Anstapa [SMTP:smills at barley.scabrewer.com]
	Sent:	Monday, February 05, 2001 6:23 PM
	To:	ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org
	Subject:	RE: ARCH - Interesting

	OK,  There is clearly a mistake here.

	What Gilli is referring to can be found in:

	* COMPLETE PARTICIPANT'S HANDBOOK  
	  KINGDOM OF ANSTEORRA   
	  A.S. XXXIV

	** SECTION 6 
	   COMBAT ARCHERY CONVENTIONS AND EQUIPMENT STANDARDS
	   INCLUDING OTHER MISCELLANEOUS PROJECTILES

	*** GLOSSARY   PAGE 54
	    FOR TERMS APPLICABLE TO COMBAT ARCHERY AND OTHER 
	    MISCELLANEOUS PROJECTILES

	    Draw: The distance from a bows string, at rest, to 
	    the string when pulled into the firing position.


	Clearly that is wrong and we need to have the Glossary of 
	the Ansteorran Complete Participants handbook revised.  
	Measuring a 28" "draw" this way would give you a 34 to 38 
	inch draw length as traditional measured on any normal 
	bow.

	I agree that if we use this definition then we are 
	probably going to be limited to around a 15 pound bow.  
	Of course it will depends on how your bow "stacks" but 
	typically as you start over drawing a bow it starts 
	stacking very quickly so there is going to be a BIG 
	difference in what a bow would measure at a traditional 
	28" draw and what it would measure at this type of draw 
	which is really a 34-38" draw.

	Fearghus,  I suggest you get with our new Earl Marshal 
	and we publish and ERRATA/ADDENDUM for the Complete 
	Participants Handbook ASAP.


	*** For reference ***

	The SCA Missle Combat Rules say:

	BOWS

	General Requirements:
	 
	1.   The draw weight of the bow is to be determined at 
	     28 inches draw length, as measured from the center
	     of the bow riser.


	AND...

	Wood or Fiberglass Shafted Arrows and Bolts:
	 
	5.   Maximum allowable draw length (bottom of the nock 
	     slot to just behind the blunt) is 28 inches.


	These are both the traditional draw and arrow length 
	requirements that I have been taught.  Keep in mind that 
	even if/when you have a bow that measures 30# at 28" 
	using this definition, it will be quite difficult to draw 
	the arrow a full 28".  

	Draw length is measured to the CENTER of the riser and if 
	the base of the blunt is going to stop at the FRONT of 
	the riser then your actually draw in combat will be Half 
	the width of the riser short of 28".  A safety factor in 
	an attempt to prevent overdrawing the bows.

	I would recommend that a handbook errata note be 
	generated  and signed by the earl marshal and crown using 
	the same definition of draw as the Society rules.  
	i.e.

	     The draw weight of the bow is to be determined at 
	     28 inches draw length, as measured from the center
	     of the bow riser.

	Until then.  Lets not panic.  We know how we have been 
	measuring draw length and we have been adhering to 
	society guidelines.  It is just an honest mistake/typo in 
	the handbook that until now nobody noticed.

	In Service,

	Eadric


	
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