[Ansteorra-archery] Combat arrows & bolts for Gulf War:

ironwyrm at juno.com ironwyrm at juno.com
Thu Feb 28 13:54:24 PST 2002


Fearghus,

Have you approved the "heat-rolled" GT APD to use in Ansteorra and if so
does it have to be covered in strapping tape?

(It could really save on those miles of strapping tape I'm running
through!)

Ironwyrm


On Thu, 28 Feb 2002 14:49:32 -0600 "Duke, Wes" <WDuke at aegonusa.com>
writes:
> You are correct Wilim.
>
> Fearghus
>
> 	-----Original Message-----
> 	From:	Wilim Penbras [SMTP:wilim.penbras at pandora.org]
> 	Sent:	Thursday, February 28, 2002 12:53 PM
> 	To:	ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org
> 	Subject:	Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Combat arrows &
> bolts for
> Gulf War:
>
> 	I'm just going to be a pain here but someone please correct
> me.
> Only the Ansteorran GT APD requires the APD to be completely covered
> in
> Strapping tape.  There is at least on other design with Heat rolled
> edges on
> the APD that doesn't require the entire thing be covered in
> strapping tape.
> The Heat rolled edges take significantly more work to make but they
> are
> perfectly legal.  I won't debate which is a better design as they
> both have
> advantages and disadvantages.
>
> 	Wilim
>
> 	---------- Original Message
> ----------------------------------
> 	From: ironwyrm at juno.com
> 	Reply-To: ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org
> 	Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 12:08:08 -0600
>
> 	>Greetings into the Combat Archers of Ansteorra,
> 	>
> 	>At Lindenwood's Border War HL Fearghus & I found many of
> the combat
> 	>arrows & bolts brought to that event to use at the war
> practice did
> not
> 	>comply with the standards set for the approved combat
> arrow/bolts
> for
> 	>Gulf War.
> 	>
> 	>If your combat arrows/bolts do not meet these standards you
> will
> not be
> 	>allowed to use them at Gulf.  Save yourself the grief of
> arriving
> on site
> 	>only to be told your combat arrows/bolts cannot be used and
> having
> to
> 	>spend hours redoing them to get onto the field.
> 	>
> 	>Please recheck your combat arrow/bolts now to make sure
> they all
> comply
> 	>to the APD designs listed below.  If you are still unsure
> contact
> your
> 	>local archery marshal, if you can't reach them contact your
> central
> 	>regional archery marshal, if still unsuccessful please
> contact HL
> 	>Fearghus, HL Gilli, or myself directly or via the
> 	>ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org for assistance.
> 	>
> 	>CHECK THESE AREAS:
> 	>
> 	>Please pay particular attention to the nock area, the nock
> or shaft
> 	>cannot stick out more than one-half inch beyond the back of
> the
> APD.
> 	>This is where we found the most problems.
> 	>
> 	>Next tapeing the GT APD's, all GT APD combat arrow/bolt's
> GT APD
> must be
> 	>completely covered by strapping tape.
> 	>
> 	>Tapeing shafts, All wood shafts must be taped the length of
> the
> shaft
> 	>with strapping tape.  All fiberglass shafts must be taped
> the
> length of
> 	>the shaft with electrical tape.
> 	>
> 	>All combat arrow/bolt heads must be additional secured to
> the shaft
> by at
> 	>least one length of strapping tape around the head to the
> shaft,
> and the
> 	>ends taped around the shaft itself to secure the strap
> tape.
> 	>
> 	>All combat arrows/bolts at Gulf must be labeled with the
> owner's
> name and
> 	>kingdom.  Anyone caught using unlabeled combat arrows/bolts
> will be
> sent
> 	>to the Marshal's Court.
> 	>
> 	>And last, double check the diameter of the head of the
> combat
> 	>arrow/bolts.  Marklands, modified marklands, & UHMW's, all
> can be
> no less
> 	>than one and one quarter inch across.
> 	>
> 	>
> 	>Commanders please take heed and have your unit's combat
> archers
> double
> 	>check all their combat missiles now so any problems may be
> found
> and
> 	>corrected here and not at Gulf!
> 	>
> 	>Let's make sure all our combat archers attending Gulf get
> on the
> field
> 	>and no one is left sitting on the sidelines over an
> equipment
> problem.
> 	>
> 	>In Service to the Kingdom,
> 	>
> 	>Ironwyrm
> 	>
> 	>
> 	>
> 	>
> 	>----- Original Message -----
> 	>From: "TLW" <tessathehuntress at earthlink.net>
> 	>To: <SCA-MissileCombat at yahoogroups.com>
> 	>Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 12:11 AM
> 	>Subject: [SCA-MissileCombat] New APD approvals
> 	>
> 	>
> 	>> Greetings,
> 	>>
> 	>> Here is the list of new APD's that have been approved for
> Society
> use:
> 	>>
> 	>> I.  75 psi (minimum OD must be larger than 1.25")
> Siloflex APD
> approved
> 	>for
> 	>> arrows and bolts, wood and fiberglass
> 	>>
> 	>> II. 80 psi (minimum OD 1 3/16"  ID 1 1/16") Siloflex APD
> approved
> for
> 	>arrows
> 	>> and bolts, wood and fiberglass
> 	>>
> 	>> The minimum length for the top of the APD is 5/8".  The
> APD must
> be cut
> 	>at
> 	>> an angle for the front edge (not the edge near the nock),
> a
> maximum
> 	>angle
> 	>of
> 	>> 45% from the plane of the arrow. The edges of the
> Siloflex must
> be
> 	>rounded
> 	>> or sanded, so there are no sharp edges to cut skin. You
> must use
> 	>strapping
> 	>> tape to attach these APD's.
> 	>>
> 	>> III. 200 Psi Siloflex APD approved for use on fiberglass
> (only)
> arrows
> 	>or
> 	>> bolts.
> 	>>
> 	>> You must use either an external tab or internal tab
> and/or routed
> 	>channel.
> 	>> The minimum length for the top of the APD is 5/8".  The
> APD must
> be cut
> 	>at
> 	>> an angle for the front edge (not the edge near the nock),
> a
> maximum
> 	>angle
> 	>of
> 	>> 45% from the plane of the arrow. The edges of the
> Siloflex must
> be
> 	>rounded
> 	>> or sanded, so there are no sharp edges to cut skin.
> Minimum ID of
> the
> 	>> Siloflex is 1", Minimum outer diameter is 1.25"
> 	>>
> 	>> IV. "The Ansteorran" golf tube APD approved for arrows
> and bolts,
> wood
> 	>and
> 	>> fiberglass
> 	>>
> 	>> Minimum length of 1.25" for the top of the APD. The APD
> must be
> cut at
> 	>an
> 	>> angle for the front edge (not the edge near the nock), a
> maximum
> angle
> 	>of
> 	>> 45% from the plane of the arrow. Trim up front and rear
> portions
> of the
> 	>APD,
> 	>> so they are no sharp edges. * The front and rear edges
> must be
> 	>completely
> 	>> covered in strapping tape(no other tape allowed). The APD
> is
> attached
> 	>using
> 	>> strapping tape.
> 	>> Refer to this website for construction tips:
> 	>> http://Middleford.ansteorra.org/APD_Construction.htm
> 	>>
> 	>> V. The Meridian golf tube APD approved for arrows and
> bolts, wood
> and
> 	>> fiberglass.
> 	>>
> 	>> The golf tube must be a minimum of 1.25" inches long.
> The top
> and the
> 	>> bottom of this APD are the same length. * The front and
> rear
> edges must
> 	>be
> 	>> completely covered in strapping tape(no other tape
> allowed). The
> APD is
> 	>> attached using strapping tape.
> 	>>
> 	>> Refer to this website for construction tips, *please note
> this
> 	>difference,
> 	>> caulk is not part of the passed design.  So do not put
> caulk
> around the
> 	>> APD.*
> 	>>
> 	>> http://www.hawkshaven.com/sca/archery/apd/gtapd.html
> 	>>
> 	>> If anyone has any questions or would like more details,
> please
> let me
> 	>know.
> 	>> If anything is confusing, please contact me ASAP, so I
> can fix
> the
> 	>wording.
> 	>>
> 	>> I would like to thank all of the people who have worked
> so hard
> on
> 	>creating
> 	>> and testing new APD designs.  Especially the people
> responsible
> for the
> 	>> APD's above, Jaime Tiampo, Sir Jon, Master Thorvald, THL
> Gilbert
> Ost
> 	>> Westley, THL Seamus Corrigan, their helpers and everyone
> else
> involved
> 	>in
> 	>> this ongoing project.
> 	>>
> 	>> THL Tessa the Huntress, Society Combat Archer Marshal
> 	>> tessathehuntress at earthlink.net
> 	>>
> 	>
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