[Ansteorra-archery] The new award

Tue Jan 22 13:53:05 PST 2002

No, not quite.  The Queens Rapier was started in 1989, 10 years after the
WSA.  So when it was started, it wasn't the only game in town for the Rapier
community.

For the past 5 years, the Kings Archer has been the only game in town for us
archers.  I believe folks looked at it as if it would be the only game and
made the getting of it as if it were a Grant and not just a non armiguous
award.

I've put several folks in for their Kings Archer.  I'm trying to think of
what I'd say differently, other than they hold the Kings Archer if I were
writing up their Arcus Majoris.  And truly, I can't think of anything I'd
add.

Our award system is so vague in areas; and probably, rightly so.  Awards are
subjective in nature.  They are also a gift from whoever wrote up the
recommendation and the Crown who agreed with it.

I think I'd find it very hard to hold those to come this day forward to
"exactly" what had been done before them to get an award.  For one thing,
I'm guessing, all three of the first recipients were/are Regional Archery
Marshals and all were/are the Kingdom Archery Marshall.  Now that would
limit who got it in the future, now wouldn't it?  I'd also bet that each has
a 200+ score in the IKAC / IKCAC.  I could go on, but no.

More later.

Gilli

-----Original Message-----
From: Duke, Wes [mailto:WDuke at aegonusa.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 10:51 AM
To: 'ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org'
Subject: RE: [Ansteorra-archery] The new award

While there are indeed holders of the Kings Archer that should be considered
for this award, I don't think it would be a good idea to just say that
everyone is ready for this award. That in my opinion would be like saying
everyone that has a Queens Rapier, or a Sable Falcon is ready for a White
Scarf or a Centurion's Cloak.  Personally while I am honored to have been
selected as one of the principles of this order, I don't have all the
characteristics that are embodied in the Constitution. But as I have been
told that one of our past Kings said when he was to be Knighted,  ' If I am
not ready I need to get there as fast as I can.' This is my intention. This
order like everything else will evolve and change as time passes. What we as
members of this Order does with this is up to us to influence the perception
of this Order. If we seek to be seen in the same light as the Dons and
Centurions, then we need to act like we want to be seen that way.

HL Fearghus MacKenna
CAM

	-----Original Message-----
	From:	Bob Dewart [SMTP:gilli at seacove.net]
	Sent:	Tuesday, January 22, 2002 8:58 AM
	To:	ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org
	Subject:	[Ansteorra-archery] The new award

	Greetings and Hi There,

	It is indeed a grand and glorious time we, as archers, live in.  And
yet,
	there is so much more to be done.  HL Fearghus, the two yet named on
this
	list (wonder who they could be, hummmmm) and the Crown will have a
mighty
	task before them.  And that task is, "Who will be #4, 5, 6, etc?".

	How do you pick?  One logical step is to select folks from those who
have a
	Kings Archer.  But many worthy people have yet to recieve that
award.  If it
	were up to me, I'd waive a majic wand and make all those who have
the Kings
	Archer, it's been given out with more or less the same frequency as
a Grant
	award, members of the new order.  But I can't do that, can I?

	If you look through the marvolously organized mass of information HE
Rumil
	has provided us in the OP (I'm still amazed at that thing, GOOD
JOB), you'll
	see a wide range of amounts of the various awards given in any given
year.
	It ranges from just one for both the WSA and the Iris in the first
year of
	the Kingdom (also 83, 87, 91, 97 for the WSA) to the maximum of 36
Iris
	given in 1995. If you look at the info yourself, you can do whatever
	statisical analiyis you wish.

	Anyway, let me put an end to this rambling of mine, got to get ready
for
	work.  For some whatever the pace is will seem excruciatingly slow;
for
	others too swift.  The award is for us archers.  Sooner or later,
the books
	will come into balance.  In the mean time, shoot more arrows, you're
bound
	to hit something.

	Gilli

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