[Ansteorra-archery] The new award

Tue Jan 22 15:10:48 PST 2002

Well said, brought tears to my eyes.

Gilli

-----Original Message-----
From: Wilim Penbras [mailto:wilim.penbras at pandora.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 5:05 PM
To: ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org
Subject: RE: [Ansteorra-archery] The new award

     The Arcus Majoris, we are told translates to the Great Bow.  My Latin
is rusty (I would have used Maximus) but I know Arcus can also be translated
as Arch.  If we choose to use this alternate translation then we must
aknowledge a few things about Arches.  The first being that it is the
strongest shape and the second being that the Middle Ages wouldn't have been
near as magnificent without them.

     The arch is something the Middle Ages wouldn't have been the same
without.  Sounds like the way archery is described in Medieval and SCAdian
warfare.  Hey,  we might be on to something here.

     Having been there and had discussions with people across the Kingdom
about the formation of this award I think I can finally offer up some ideas
for where this award COULD go if we chose.

     IKACs and IKCACs are wonderful things but only three names from the
kingdom ever get on the short list for that.  Service to the archery
community sounds great and every archer is doing that to some extent.
Gilli's right in that we can't all be Regionals or Kingdom level deputies.
I'll tell you the one major thing that was common amongst the three
principals.  Word Fame.

     In every region I went to these three were known.  Yes, they were
generally feared as competitiors so scores must be in there as a
requirement.  They have all taught, whether it be on a local level or a
knowne worlde level they have taught.  They have done many things to support
archery, the kingdom, and archery within the kingdom.  They all have one
thing in common.  Whether I was talking to a Count, Duke, Archer, Squire,
Bard, Don, or Laurel, they were known.  What's more their name was
synonymous with archery.

     With all due respect, there are many holders of the King's Archer that
are well known within the archery community  and even several that are not
so well known.  Let me give you one more idea to play with and then the
discussions may continue.

    A very common place that a great arch was found in period architecture
was in bridges.  The three principals of this order have done more than most
to bridge the gaps between the archery community and the rest of the
kingdom.  By their efforts and the efforts of those that will follow, the
gap may just disappear.  Perhaps in the future people may just wonder if it
was ever really there at all.

In Service,
     Ld Wilim Penbras ap Gurgeneu, Esquire
     Protege to HE Galen of Bristol
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Dewart, Charles R. --G3 Contractor (Anteon Corp)"
Reply-To: ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 15:53:05 -0600

>No, not quite.  The Queens Rapier was started in 1989, 10 years after the
>WSA.  So when it was started, it wasn't the only game in town for the
Rapier
>community.
>
>For the past 5 years, the Kings Archer has been the only game in town for
us
>archers.  I believe folks looked at it as if it would be the only game and
>made the getting of it as if it were a Grant and not just a non armiguous
>award.
>
>I've put several folks in for their Kings Archer.  I'm trying to think of
>what I'd say differently, other than they hold the Kings Archer if I were
>writing up their Arcus Majoris.  And truly, I can't think of anything I'd
>add.
>
>Our award system is so vague in areas; and probably, rightly so.  Awards
are
>subjective in nature.  They are also a gift from whoever wrote up the
>recommendation and the Crown who agreed with it.
>
>I think I'd find it very hard to hold those to come this day forward to
>"exactly" what had been done before them to get an award.  For one thing,
>I'm guessing, all three of the first recipients were/are Regional Archery
>Marshals and all were/are the Kingdom Archery Marshall.  Now that would
>limit who got it in the future, now wouldn't it?  I'd also bet that each
has
>a 200+ score in the IKAC / IKCAC.  I could go on, but no.
>
>More later.
>
>Gilli
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Duke, Wes [mailto:WDuke at aegonusa.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 10:51 AM
>To: 'ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org'
>Subject: RE: [Ansteorra-archery] The new award
>
>
>While there are indeed holders of the Kings Archer that should be
considered
>for this award, I don't think it would be a good idea to just say that
>everyone is ready for this award. That in my opinion would be like saying
>everyone that has a Queens Rapier, or a Sable Falcon is ready for a White
>Scarf or a Centurion's Cloak.  Personally while I am honored to have been
>selected as one of the principles of this order, I don't have all the
>characteristics that are embodied in the Constitution. But as I have been
>told that one of our past Kings said when he was to be Knighted,  ' If I am
>not ready I need to get there as fast as I can.' This is my intention. This
>order like everything else will evolve and change as time passes. What we
as
>members of this Order does with this is up to us to influence the
perception
>of this Order. If we seek to be seen in the same light as the Dons and
>Centurions, then we need to act like we want to be seen that way.
>
>HL Fearghus MacKenna
>CAM
>
>	-----Original Message-----
>	From:	Bob Dewart [SMTP:gilli at seacove.net]
>	Sent:	Tuesday, January 22, 2002 8:58 AM
>	To:	ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org
>	Subject:	[Ansteorra-archery] The new award
>
>	Greetings and Hi There,
>
>	It is indeed a grand and glorious time we, as archers, live in.  And
>yet,
>	there is so much more to be done.  HL Fearghus, the two yet named on
>this
>	list (wonder who they could be, hummmmm) and the Crown will have a
>mighty
>	task before them.  And that task is, "Who will be #4, 5, 6, etc?".
>
>	How do you pick?  One logical step is to select folks from those who
>have a
>	Kings Archer.  But many worthy people have yet to recieve that
>award.  If it
>	were up to me, I'd waive a majic wand and make all those who have
>the Kings
>	Archer, it's been given out with more or less the same frequency as
>a Grant
>	award, members of the new order.  But I can't do that, can I?
>
>	If you look through the marvolously organized mass of information HE
>Rumil
>	has provided us in the OP (I'm still amazed at that thing, GOOD
>JOB), you'll
>	see a wide range of amounts of the various awards given in any given
>year.
>	It ranges from just one for both the WSA and the Iris in the first
>year of
>	the Kingdom (also 83, 87, 91, 97 for the WSA) to the maximum of 36
>Iris
>	given in 1995. If you look at the info yourself, you can do whatever
>	statisical analiyis you wish.
>
>	Anyway, let me put an end to this rambling of mine, got to get ready
>for
>	work.  For some whatever the pace is will seem excruciatingly slow;
>for
>	others too swift.  The award is for us archers.  Sooner or later,
>the books
>	will come into balance.  In the mean time, shoot more arrows, you're
>bound
>	to hit something.
>
>	Gilli
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