[Ansteorra-archery] What are things that are keeping out Combat Archers of the field?

[Charlie Ribron II]

I have to agree with Caelin, every chance I get when at work I go to the
history section for the books on period and every thing I've seen goes to
the least skilled fighters got bows to work with and got about 30 to 40 mins
a day to practice this was about a week or so. I will say that the better
archiers where the foresters and hunters of their area or they lived a while
and got good. When they showed that they where good they got more practice
and started to help train others. They did train with their units later in
the training  when they got some skill. But archers got better faster due to
the one weapon trainning time.
  Later in period they would pick men to just do archery and they would pick
apart a lot of units they face. So what I'm saying here is that both
opinions could be right depending which time period your from. And that
archers like others need to practice to get better.
  The other thing I've seen since I travel to other kingdoms alot is here we
are treated a lot better then most other areas.
Ld Carlos
-----Original Message-----
From: Ruff, David <David.Ruff at valueoptions.com>
To: 'ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org' <ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
Date: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 12:15 PM
Subject: RE: [Ansteorra-archery] What are things that are keeping out Combat
Archers of the field?


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>Not to add to the arguement, but i agree with you and disagree. A Archer
was
>in period a very skilled person able to hit man size objects at great
>distances - i dare say even more skilled then our best archers of today due
>to the wieght or thier bows back then. A crossbowman was not highly
skilled,
>altho (i have no written proof) i would imagine that there were crossbowmen
>that were very accurate to the point of a modern day sniper. They
>(crossbowmen) were given afew hours and maybe days of training and pointed
>in the direction of battle.
>
>It would seem to me in todays game that it would take as much skill with a
>30# bow and over wieght arrows to hit a moving target when pressed by
>incoming fire and charging fighters as it would to down another fighter
with
>a sword. All in all its a game and hits are hits. Or atleast that is my
>opinion whether right or wrong :)
>
>Ulrich of Carolingia
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Richard Threlkeld [mailto:rjt at softwareinnovation.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 11:47 AM
>To: ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org
>Subject: RE: [Ansteorra-archery] What are things that are keeping out
>Combat Archers of the field?
>
>
>I am just relaying comments I have received. But I have a greater chance of
>killing a Duke with my crossbow than with my sword and shield despite less
>practice with the crossbow to date. His great skills are not even an issue
>because I am out of range of those skills.
>
>I am not joining the argument on the other side. One reason the archer
>became so important in period was it cost less in equipment and in training
>to make an effective archer than an effective knight. And a sufficient
>number of archers with a sufficient number of arrows could quickly turn the
>tides of battle. I suspect the knights in period did not like the archers
on
>the other side either, but they did not have the option of ignoring a kill.
>
>I very much like archery in general. On the battle field I like it because
I
>can contribute more as an archer than as a sword and shield man (though I
do
>both).
>
>My $0.02,
>Caelin on Andrede
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ansteorra-archery-admin at ansteorra.org
>> [mailto:ansteorra-archery-admin at ansteorra.org]On Behalf Of LD. BLACKMOON
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 11:16 AM
>> To: ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org
>> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] What are things that are keeping out
>> Combat Archers of the field?
>>
>>
>> >There are still people (some of them knights)
>> who don't like archery in combat and will not count a kill from an
>> archer. They don't like to be killed by someone with less combat
>> skill than they have and the rules be damned.
>>
>> from my point of view , it takes just as much skill to shoot past
>> a fighter
>> to hit your target .
>> or do they like getting shot in the back, by less skilled archers ???
>>
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