[Ansteorra-archery] Bowman Tournaments

[Bob Dewart]

Well zippy du da.

If that's all you're wanting, I can fix that quick fast and in a hurry (sort
a).  Since I'm not in the kitchen at this years Warchieftain / Caviler of
the Bridge, I'm going to be on the range.  We will have 7, that's right
SEVEN archery tourneys.  One just for the kids, one for each of the rank
divisions-which the kids may also shoot in, and an open--all shooters.  For
the divisions, a shooter can shoot in a hiher division, but not a lower one.

Is that something along what you had in mind?

Gilli

Shoot more arrows.  You're bound to hit something.
----- Original Message -----
From: <jspinks at ix.netcom.com>
To: <ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Bowman Tournaments


You make the point quit well, Pug.  Many DO give up for lack of
encouragement and quit practicing.  And Gilli and others also have valid
points that practice is needed to shoot well.     This is why I set the
recent tourney to cover Bowman and below- to attract those that had given up
or that simply were not practicing as much any more due to discouragement.
It worked.  Archers were there that had not shot in a year but that I used
to see regularly. If we can get those folks out and shooting again and with
the encouragement of our better archers- who knows what might be
accomplished.  Perhaps it is time to look at something such as a
master/student relationship such as is in so many other areas of our game?

There has been some excellent discussion so far.  I still have not seen
anyone commit to ACCEPT THE CHALLENGE although I still have not read all the
messages in the thread yet.

Jacque the Spink



-------Original Message-------
From: Pug Bainter <pug at pug.net>
Sent: 06/12/03 08:15 AM
To: ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Bowman Tournaments

>
> Bob Dewart (gilli at hot.rr.com) said something that sounded like:
> Archers ranked at Bowman or below have the same chance as a fighter of
that
> skill level defeating  (fill in the name of the Knight or Don of your
> choice).  My point is these folks have spent much time and effort to
attain
> their skill.  And so must those, in most cases, who would be victorious
over
> them in a head to head or even just a high score.

Yes, and something we don't see as often on the fighting field anymore
is "Newbie" tourneys. In the past these were quite popular and you'd see
one about every month. These were tournaments that only new fighters
could enter. This generally meant that they had been fighting less than
a year.

Why are these a good thing? They encourage new fighters to not quit. If
every time you enter a tournament you are taken out the first or second
round, (depending on single or double elim) then you are likely to give
up in frustration instead of putting more effort into it.

Yes hard competition is good, but to keep people around you have to let
them win every now and then. Any good trainer on the fighting field
allows the new fighter to land a killing shot every now and then.

> Archery is a perishable skill.  If you don't shoot, well we know what
> happens.

As is true with fighting.

Ciao,

--
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Bryn Gwlad - Ansteorra |   fools of ourself."
Dark Horde Moritu      |   --Lawyer on NPR regarding
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