[Ansteorra-archery] Bowman Tournaments
Bob Dewart
gilli at hot.rr.com
Fri Jun 13 18:51:13 PDT 2003
Well, thanks Dad. :)
Gilli
Shoot more arrows. You're bound to hit something.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Talmon Parker" <tt_ann at hotmail.com>
To: <ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Bowman Tournaments
> blooming youngster!!!!
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> Parker
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> DER BARON
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> >From: "Bob Dewart" <gilli at hot.rr.com>
> >Reply-To: ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org
> >To: <ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Bowman Tournaments
> >Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 16:12:23 -0500
> >
> >Some times aspirations don't have anything to do with it. You just start
> >doing what you like and in time it's hard to say what you may accomplish.
> >If you like it, do it. No one says you have to be or get good at it..
> >Look
> >at all the golfers. :)
> >
> >When I started, all I was going to do was run the IKCAC for the Kingdom
> >because we didn't even have a score in it. I never even planed on
> >shooting,
> >just running the range. It's amazing how things can turn out.
> >
> >I'll be 50 in Dec.
> >
> >Gilli
> >Shoot more arrows. You're bound to hit something.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Susan Hill" <sueorintx at hotmail.com>
> >To: <ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
> >Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 10:45 AM
> >Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Bowman Tournaments
> >
> >
> > > As one of the new archers who was fortunate enough to participate in
the
> > > Novice tournament at Steppes Warlord, I have been reading this thread
> >with
> > > some interest. I have been shooting for about 6 months now and am
> >enjoying
> > > it very much. I am not a kid with huge amounts of strength and
stamina,
> >I
> >am
> > > a lot closer to 50 than to 30 but wanted to try something new. Archery
> > > seemed like something I would enjoy.
> > >
> > > I have no aspirations at becoming an expert archer, indeed we have
> > > discovered a physiological reason why I may never be much more than a
> >fair
> > > one, (Ulrich, you are far more than OK) but I am learning and having
fun
> >and
> > > improving, albeit slowly. I would love to be able to practice more,
but
> >time
> > > and money restrict me to our once a week practices. Location is also a
> > > challenge. I have to drive at least half an hour to get to practices
but
> >I
> > > try to get to all of them.
> > >
> > > Lords Ulrich and Jacques have been good and kind enough to offer help
> >and
> > > tutoring that many would not have. Without their help I probably would
> >have
> > > given up a couple of months ago when I plateaued out the first time.
> >They
> > > encouraged me to shoot in the novice tournament, though I had some
> > > misgivings. I didn't win, I didnt even place in the top 5 I would
guess,
> >but
> > > I finished in the middle of the pack. I was pleased with my
performance
> > > though because I: a) didn't choke, b) didn't come in last, c) shot my
> >high
> > > average, and d) had a lot of fun.
> > >
> > > These Novice or Bowman's tournaments are great ideas because they are
> > > wonderful learning experiences for those of us just starting out. They
> > > encourage us to keep going even if the chances of becoming a champion
> >are
> > > small. We may not ever reach the ranks of some of you but we are the
> >future
> > > of archery. Only by our enthusiasm will the archery community continue
> >to
> > > grow and prosper. If everyone had the 'shoot more and you'll do
better'
> >and
> > > 'shoot against the big boys only and suffer the consequences'
> >philosophies
> > > that I have seen that some have, most of us would quit in a heartbeat.
> >Yes
> > > we do learn something when we shoot against better archers, but only
if
> >they
> > > are willing to share their experience with us. Not all of them are
> >willing
> > > to do so, though most are.
> > >
> > > I would like to see more of these lower level tournaments because they
> >are
> >a
> > > fun and safe way to push myself to do better. They develop confidence
> >when
> > > trying to participate in a championship might be demoralizing if we
were
> > > even allowed. I will shoot in another such tournament or contest if
> >given
> > > the opportunity. I look forward to it and thank those who care enough
to
> > > give us novices something to strive for; a realistic goal, something
we
> >have
> > > a chance at succeeding at.
> > >
> > > In service to the Dream
> > >
> > > Linet Grey
> > >
> > >
> > > ----Original Message Follows----
> > > From: David Ruff <dmruff1 at yahoo.com>
> > > Reply-To: ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org
> > > To: ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Bowman Tournaments
> > > Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 00:21:03 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > > I agree to a point in the fact that any archer can
> > > shoot well one day and shoot bad the next. But,
> > > without coaching, practice and a constant drive you
> > > WILL cap out and not advance to the next level. In my
> > > opinion archery is 50% muscle repetition, 40% mental
> > > and 10% hand/eye cordination, let yourself slack off
> > > in any one of those and you WILL shoot bad, keep
> > > constant practice in them and you WILL advance.
> > > Without anyone to help you along you will cap - if you
> > > fail to push and learn - thats where we lose many
> > > archers that could climb to the top - but never make
> > > it past the first or second hump in the climb.
> > >
> > > As an ok archer - i have had poeple next to me give me
> > > a good whooping that i "should" be able to beat, good
> > > days are good days, bad days are bad - in the end
> > > however all that really counts is we as a whole
> > > support, encourage and help new archers gain skill and
> > > knowledge.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ulrich
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- iaenmor <iaenmor at swbell.net> wrote:
> > > > Damm, I kinda agree with you Gilli. Anybody on a
> > > > given day could win, above
> > > > and beyond their expectations. But at the same time
> > > > sponsoring a beginners
> > > > tourney persay is a good idea. What is the best way
> > > > to get someone to
> > > > practice, dangle a little bait in front of them. It
> > > > does seem to work for
> > > > the chivalric lists. At the same time I think it
> > > > behooves the better
> > > > archers to make sure that they attend these shoots
> > > > to offer their advice and
> > > > experience. I think as a whole we the archery
> > > > community do not spend enough
> > > > time with a newer archers. Yes, I am as guilty of
> > > > this as others, but we
> > > > have and can see examples of this. The time you
> > > > spent with Lord Robert is a
> > > > good example, he may have had the natural skill but
> > > > who provided the time,
> > > > range and incentive. The same could be said of Lord
> > > > Carluccio, the man
> > > > seems to have a lot of talent when it comes to
> > > > shooting but having someone
> > > > look at your form, stance and equipment and helping
> > > > to better all can not be
> > > > discounted. Sure lets have beginner tournaments but
> > > > lets also make sure the
> > > > pride of Ansteorran archers are there to coach,
> > > > teach and encourage them in
> > > > their endavors.
> > > > Iaen Mor
> > > > Gate's Edge
> > > > Ansteorra
> > > > Coastal Region Archery Marshal
> > > > iaenmor at swbell.net
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Bob Dewart" <gilli at hot.rr.com>
> > > > To: <ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 11:01 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Bowman Tournaments
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I'm probably going to get yelled at for this, but
> > > > I'm going to say it
> > > > > anyway.
> > > > >
> > > > > Archers ranked at Bowman or below have the same
> > > > chance as a fighter of
> > > > that
> > > > > skill level defeating (fill in the name of the
> > > > Knight or Don of your
> > > > > choice). My point is these folks have spent much
> > > > time and effort to
> > > > attain
> > > > > their skill. And so must those, in most cases,
> > > > who would be victorious
> > > > over
> > > > > them in a head to head or even just a high score.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have been sponsoring competition for many years.
> > > > Few overcome the
> > > > inertia
> > > > > to compete. Few take the time to practice.
> > > > >
> > > > > As the story goes, when the man asked "How do you
> > > > get to Carrigee Hall?"
> > > > The
> > > > > reply was, "Practice".
> > > > >
> > > > > Archery is a perishable skill. If you don't
> > > > shoot, well we know what
> > > > > happens.
> > > > >
> > > > > OK, so yell away, or not.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gilli
> > > > > Shoot more arrows. You're bound to hit something.
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: <jspinks at ix.netcom.com>
> > > > > To: <ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
> > > > > Cc: <dmruff1 at juno.com>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 6:03 PM
> > > > > Subject: [Ansteorra-archery] Bowman Tournaments
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > To the those archers of Ansteorra that do us the
> > > > service of organizing and
> > > > > running archery tournaments at events- I thank
> > > > you. I have, however, a
> > > > > proposal for you and the ranking archers of our
> > > > kingdom. I have long
> > > > noted
> > > > > that there are many fine archers in our kingdom-
> > > > some of whom regularly
> > > > post
> > > > > target scores and some of whom do not. I have
> > > > also long noted that there
> > > > > are many archers that begin and reach a plateau
> > > > and, for lack of
> > > > improvement
> > > > > or teaching become discouraged and do not seek to
> > > > improve their scores or
> > > > do
> > > > > not enter tournaments. And against archers such as
> > > > Don Sebastion, Lord
> > > > > Carluccio, Lady Moreg, Lord Ironwyrm, Lord Ulrich,
> > > > Lord Fearghus, and
> > > > > others, what chance does the archer ranked at
> > > > Bowman or below have?
> > > > >
> > > > > This year at Warlord we held our first Bowmans
> > > > Tourney for those that were
> > > > > new, or had less than a Bowman ranking, and had
> > > > never won a tourney. 16
> > > > > archers that rarely competed or had not done so
> > > > before participated in a
> > > > > Royal Round plus an offbeat round. It was a lot of
> > > > fun and I expect we
> > > > will
> > > > > continue to offer such tourneys in the future at
> > > > Warlord. The winner was
> > > > > rewarded and recognized in court- something that
> > > > is also rare for those of
> > > > > lower rank or just beginning.
> > > > >
> > > > > I challenge the other marshalls of our Kingdom to
> > > > sponsor similar Bowman's
> > > > > Tourneys in the interest of promoting our sport
> > > > and developing and
> > > > > encouraging our less experienced or less skilled
> > > > archers to join in the
> > > > > ranks of the Foresters and Huntsmen. Lord Ulrich
> > > > and I each sponsored and
> > > > > encouraged two particular individuals in the
> > > > recent tourney. Who else
> > > > would
> > > > > teach others and encourage and mentor them? Who
> > > > else will step forward
> > > > and
> > > > > organize such Bowman's tourneys- not for the
> > > > champion archers in
> > > > Ansteorra-
> > > > > but for tomorrow's champions?
> > > > >
> > > > > Archers of Ansteorra- what say you to this
> > > > challenge?
> > > > >
> > > > > Lord Jacque the Spink
> > > > > Steppes Archery Marshall
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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