[Ansteorra-archery] Re: Correct APD Size

Fri Mar 7 13:13:45 PST 2003

Hello, Michael here.

I will cover a couple of things that might or might not be of interest
to everyone.

On to Ld Eadric Anstapa question on, where I get my Golf Tubes?

I get my golf tubes from Walmart and I get the jumbo size, just because
I can get my thumb inside of it and to ensure a minimum diameter of 1.25
inches. I also take a small ruler and measure these Golf Tubes prior to
buying as well.

I will be at Gulf Wars this year, arriving Monday sometime. If anyone
wants to see how I build Golf Tube APDs, look for the Condottieri camp.
Plans are to mark the location on the site map for several others who
will be joining us later in the week.

After Gulf Wars is over, I can be found in North Dallas, City of
Carrollton's park - Mary Heads Carter park. Usually from 2 PM until
sunset on Sunday afternoons. Then some events - usually War events or
those that will have War practice(s) and combat archery.

The construction that I use for a Golf Tube APD is what was called "The
Ansteorran" or now by Society "The Angle Cut Golf Tube APD".

Go to:
http://middleford.ansterroa.org/APD_Construction.htm

Which Ld Gilli and others developed and I assisted in battlefield
testing back in 2001. This will provide you with the base idea. I use
more tape than what is shown on the above web site.

I prefer using Golf Tube APD's my choice, just as it is Ld Eadric
Anstapa, who prefers Siloflex. No big deal - each to their own. Both
types are approved.

Received word on SCA approved name - Submitted "Michael of the Fray" and
I did allow for minor changes. Heard back from the Heralds and the name
is -

"Michael Fray".

So I will be answering to "Michael Fray" from now on.

Unit that I support as combat archer is the "Condottieri", no longer
with the "Fray".

Michael Fray
Unit Combat Archer for the Condottieri
King's Archer
CA Authorization Marshal

Eadric Anstapa wrote:
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> Greetings Jorunn,
>
> OK, lets see if I can answer you questions with some short and sweet answers that will hopefully assure that your APDs will pass inspection.
>
> Size of the Golf Tube.
>     It must be a minimum of 1.25" in diameter.  Many people seem to prefer the
>     "Jumbo" golf tubes which are a bit larger in diameter and it allows them to get
>      a thumb in them for nocking.
>
>     The length of the Golf Tube must also be cut to a minimum length of 1.25".
>     The may be square-cut or angled cut on the front end of the tube.  If angled
>      then the shortest side should be 1.25" in diameter.
>
> The APD should be mounted no farther than and 0.5" from the very nock end of the arrow.
>
> The APD must be held very securely in place with fiberglass strapping tape.  This strapping tape must run both around and through the tube.  I can take a lot of tape to get it right and secure.
>
> If anyone out there is really interested in Golf Tube APDs they need to talk to Michael of the Fray. (knock, knock, Michael are you there?)  I think he does about the best job of any golf tube APDs that I have inspected.  He can tell you where he gets his Jumbo tubes.
>
> Personally, this Kingdom Archery Marshal doesn't like golf tube APDs.  I would prefer that whenever possible people use Siloflex or the commercial Asgard APD.
>
> When making Siloflex APDs I prefer the square-cut routed channel design made of 160 PSI siloflex.  I prefer this design for the simple reason that it is the most rugged and secure of the homemade designs that I have encountered.
>
> I understand that there are times when it might be necessary to use Golf Tubes such as on wooden shafts (but I would also prefer that we not make any new wooden shafted combat arrows) or when a person doesn't have tools necessary to cut the siloflex.  In those cases just take the time to get it right.  Thank you for asking to make sure that you get it right.
>
> The most complete place to go for APD information is http://www.combat-archery.com   This is the site of the Society Combat Archery Marshal and is linked to from the Manuals/Reference page and the Links page at http://archery.ansteorra.org.  A direct link to the Golf Tube APD page  on that site is  http://www.combat-archery.com/gtapd.htm  That page is the definitive page regarding what is required of Golf Tube APDs
>
> Any questions come see us at inspection point at war or find me in the Coastal Region / Gates Edge encampment.
>
> Regards,
>
> Lord Eadric Anstapa
> Kingdom Archery Marshal, Ansteorra
> eadric at scabrewer.com
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>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Dwherplvr2 at aol.com
>   To: eadric at scabrewer.com
>   Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:53 AM
>   Subject: Correct APD Size
>
>   Greetings Lord Eadric,
>
>   I have a couple of quick questions on APD's.  What is the correct size of the golf tube APD and what is the correct way to attach them to the fiberglass shaft?  I've shown a couple of the ones I've made to Baron Ulf but he's not familiar with the specifics on them so he wasn't sure what to tell me.  And, with Gulf Wars just a few days away, I'm afraid I didn't make them correctly.  I've got a couple of pics I could send but they're not the greatest quality.
>
>   Thank you for all your help.
>
>   Jorunn Gunnardottir
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