[Ansteorra-archery] Re: Correct APD Size

[Richard Threlkeld]

I buy from Apple Sports in case lots. I set up that
account when we were making 500+ ballista bolts
last year. I don't have time to look up the prices
before Gulf War, but they were the best I could
find at the time and they are wholesale.

In service,
Caelin on Andrede

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ansteorra-archery-admin at ansteorra.org
> [mailto:ansteorra-archery-admin at ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of
> meggiddo at netzero.net
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 3:14 PM
> To: ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Re: Correct APD Size
>
>
> Hello, Michael here.
>
> I will cover a couple of things that might or might not be of
> interest to everyone.
>
> On to Ld Eadric Anstapa question on, where I get my Golf Tubes?
>
> I get my golf tubes from Walmart and I get the jumbo size,
> just because I can get my thumb inside of it and to ensure a
> minimum diameter of 1.25 inches. I also take a small ruler
> and measure these Golf Tubes prior to buying as well.
>
> I will be at Gulf Wars this year, arriving Monday sometime.
> If anyone wants to see how I build Golf Tube APDs, look for
> the Condottieri camp. Plans are to mark the location on the
> site map for several others who will be joining us later in the week.
>
> After Gulf Wars is over, I can be found in North Dallas, City
> of Carrollton's park - Mary Heads Carter park. Usually from 2
> PM until sunset on Sunday afternoons. Then some events -
> usually War events or those that will have War practice(s)
> and combat archery.
>
> The construction that I use for a Golf Tube APD is what was
> called "The Ansteorran" or now by Society "The Angle Cut Golf
> Tube APD".
>
> Go to:
> http://middleford.ansterroa.org/APD_Construction.htm
>
> Which Ld Gilli and others developed and I assisted in
> battlefield testing back in 2001. This will provide you with
> the base idea. I use more tape than what is shown on the
> above web site.
>
> I prefer using Golf Tube APD's my choice, just as it is Ld
> Eadric Anstapa, who prefers Siloflex. No big deal - each to
> their own. Both types are approved.
>
> Received word on SCA approved name - Submitted "Michael of
> the Fray" and I did allow for minor changes. Heard back from
> the Heralds and the name is -
>
> "Michael Fray".
>
> So I will be answering to "Michael Fray" from now on.
>
> Unit that I support as combat archer is the "Condottieri", no
> longer with the "Fray".
>
>
> Michael Fray
> Unit Combat Archer for the Condottieri
> King's Archer
> CA Authorization Marshal
>
>
>
> Eadric Anstapa wrote:
> >
> > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > Greetings Jorunn,
> >
> > OK, lets see if I can answer you questions with some short
> and sweet
> > answers that will hopefully assure that your APDs will pass
> > inspection.
> >
> > Size of the Golf Tube.
> >     It must be a minimum of 1.25" in diameter.  Many people
> seem to prefer the
> >     "Jumbo" golf tubes which are a bit larger in diameter
> and it allows them to get
> >      a thumb in them for nocking.
> >
> >     The length of the Golf Tube must also be cut to a
> minimum length of 1.25".
> >     The may be square-cut or angled cut on the front end of
> the tube.  If angled
> >      then the shortest side should be 1.25" in diameter.
> >
> > The APD should be mounted no farther than and 0.5" from the
> very nock
> > end of the arrow.
> >
> > The APD must be held very securely in place with fiberglass
> strapping
> > tape.  This strapping tape must run both around and through
> the tube.
> > I can take a lot of tape to get it right and secure.
> >
> > If anyone out there is really interested in Golf Tube APDs
> they need
> > to talk to Michael of the Fray. (knock, knock, Michael are
> you there?)
> > I think he does about the best job of any golf tube APDs
> that I have
> > inspected.  He can tell you where he gets his Jumbo tubes.
> >
> > Personally, this Kingdom Archery Marshal doesn't like golf
> tube APDs.
> > I would prefer that whenever possible people use Siloflex or the
> > commercial Asgard APD.
> >
> > When making Siloflex APDs I prefer the square-cut routed channel
> > design made of 160 PSI siloflex.  I prefer this design for
> the simple
> > reason that it is the most rugged and secure of the
> homemade designs
> > that I have encountered.
> >
> > I understand that there are times when it might be necessary to use
> > Golf Tubes such as on wooden shafts (but I would also
> prefer that we
> > not make any new wooden shafted combat arrows) or when a person
> > doesn't have tools necessary to cut the siloflex.  In those
> cases just
> > take the time to get it right.  Thank you for asking to
> make sure that
> > you get it right.
> >
> > The most complete place to go for APD information is
> http://www.combat-archery.com   This is the site of the
> Society Combat Archery Marshal and is linked to from the
> Manuals/Reference page and the Links page at
> http://archery.ansteorra.org.  A direct link > to the Golf Tube
> APD page  on that site is
> http://www.combat-archery.com/gtapd.htm  That > page is the
> definitive page regarding what is required of Golf Tube APDs
> >
> > Any questions come see us at inspection point at war or
> find me in the
> > Coastal Region / Gates Edge encampment.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Lord Eadric Anstapa
> > Kingdom Archery Marshal, Ansteorra
> > eadric at scabrewer.com
> >
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Dwherplvr2 at aol.com
> >   To: eadric at scabrewer.com
> >   Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:53 AM
> >   Subject: Correct APD Size
> >
> >   Greetings Lord Eadric,
> >
> >   I have a couple of quick questions on APD's.  What is the correct
> > size of the golf tube APD and what is the correct way to
> attach them
> > to the fiberglass shaft?  I've shown a couple of the ones
> I've made to
> > Baron Ulf but he's not familiar with the specifics on them so he
> > wasn't sure what to tell me.  And, with Gulf Wars just a few days
> > away, I'm afraid I didn't make them correctly.  I've got a
> couple of
> > pics I could send but they're not the greatest quality.
> >
> >   Thank you for all your help.
> >
> >   Jorunn Gunnardottir
> >
> > --
> >
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