[Ansteorra-archery] Pomp and Ceremony

[Talmon Parker]

What hassle???
  JUST FILL OUT THE FORMS AND GIVE IT TO SOMEONE ..Give them a few bucks and 
forget about it. They will do all the leg work for you. So what if it takes 
a long while to get an answer.
  From A guy who has been 12 years trying to get just one eye fixed, And 
just recieved another delay of 3 or 4 months. It all comes out in the 
wash....

                                             Talmon,  Gates edge,  Ansteorra




              DER BARON





>From: Rumil Fletcher <rumil at sbcglobal.net>
>Reply-To: Archery within the Kingdom of 
>Ansteorra<ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
>To: Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra 
><ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
>Subject: RE: [Ansteorra-archery] Pomp and Ceremony
>Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 14:26:30 -0600
>
>>Ok, let me see if I have this ....In order to compete in anything other 
>>than a local type competition, I should have toget my name registered and 
>>a device created. Well, I do have a problem with this. Lots of us have 
>>perfectly good names, but have heard of enough horror stories of people 
>>trying to get devices and names approved that we are more than a little 
>>reluctant to even make the attempt, not knowing any heralds that we have 
>>enough trust in to get us through the process. I'm not sure if it is worth 
>>the headaches and frustration.
>
>Have you personally tried?  I have heard horror stories too.  But my 
>experience has been far removed from those stories.
>
>
>>That being said, I don't see how having one's name or device registered 
>>determines if we 'play the game right.' I was told when I started 
>>'playing' this game 2 years ago, by a knight of some repute in the Kingdom 
>>of An Tir, that he recommended that one play forat least a couple of years 
>>before settling on a specific time period or name. He himself had changed 
>>his name after years of playing under another name. I have a name that is 
>>period. It is not the name I would like to have registered as I have only 
>>recently discovered an alternate spelling of the name I wanted to have 
>>that IS period where the first choice was not. I am not completely sure if 
>>it is worth the hassle of having everyone that already knows me as Linet 
>>Grey trying to recognize me as or learn another name.
>
>Never did I suggest you can't play locally or kingdom wide if you do not 
>have your name and arms passed.  This entire discussion pertains to the use 
>of banners with your arms on them.  For that to work, there would need to 
>be a substantial number of people with passed arms.  Pertaining to my 
>comment regarding "play the game right," you can like or dislike as it 
>suits you, but that is simply the way it is.  I agree with your "knight of 
>some repute" that a year or two should go by before you start thinking 
>about registering a name and device to ensure you have landed on something 
>you like.  But there are problems associated with waiting longer, such as 
>getting awards under one name, then changing your name to something else.  
>But how many of us on this list have been playing longer than 2 years? 
>Almost all of us, I think.
>
>
>
>>Sorry if this is a bit on the b*tchy side, but the one way to get my 
>>hackles up is to say that I HAVE to do something in order to be 'popular'. 
>>Didn't work in high school and won't work now. I will do my duty to the 
>>Crown, my Barony, and to the Knowne World to the best of my ability and 
>>with the respect that each of them are entitled to. If that isn't 'playing 
>>the game right' I don't know what is.
>
>What on Earth are you talking about?  When did I EVER say or imply the word 
>"popular?"  Nor did I ever suggest you HAVE to do anything.
>
>>
>>Linet Grey (also known as the Outspoken)
>>
>
>Perhaps you don't understand what it means when I discuss playing the game 
>right.  People come to the SCA for a lot of different reasons, some to 
>party, some from an interest in Medieval history, some like to fight, etc.  
>But like it or not, this is a Medieval Reenactment Society.  Our goal is to 
>reenact the Middle Ages and Renaissance in all its (better) aspects.  Now, 
>no one is expected to have all their Ps and Qs dotted on day 1, or year 1, 
>or ever, for that matter.  Some people want to just party, or shoot 
>archery, or whatever, and that is fine.  But it is understood that some 
>people want to really play the game right, and that involves a little more 
>effort.  That could mean using a knife to eat with at feast instead of a 
>fork.  It could mean registering your name and arms.  It could mean making 
>a period tent to replace that worn out plastic one.  It could mean shooting 
>at tourneys with fully period equipment instead of that fiberglass bow.
>
>If you go to Crown Tourney and look at the "shield board," you will note 
>that there are very few blank shields.  That is because it is understood 
>that most people who compete in Crown Tourney have moved to that next level 
>and are willing to take that extra effort to play the game right.  It has 
>nothing to do with being popular.  It has everything to do with trying to 
>further advance the period experience for yourself and others by improving 
>all aspects of the game.
>
>I suppose you may respond that if that is what it means to "play the game 
>right" then I can keep it.  But whether you like it or not, that is the way 
>it is.  Not because I say so, but its just the way it is. This may come as 
>a surprise to you, but some households and groups in this kingdom encourage 
>their new people to start the process of registering their names right 
>away.  When I was Zodiacus and was entering the passed names and arms each 
>month into the OP, I was amazed how many people were registering names (and 
>even arms) who had not even received an AoA yet.  And in some other 
>kingdoms, it is common to do so.
>
>Rumil Fletcher
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