[Ansteorra-archery] Some Gulf War XIII Combat Archery Stats

arcusironwyrm at juno.com arcusironwyrm at juno.com
Fri Jul 30 12:32:35 PDT 2004


 You know I hate to make a shameless plug but this does seem like a 
good opportunity to do so.  One of the things we are always short of 
in combat archery during Gulf War is marshals, both inspecting & field.  

It's always the same archery marshals volunteering to work the inspection

stations and battlefields.  If you're interested in how this all works I
would 
strongly suggest you get involved by volunteering as archery marshals
this 
coming Gulf War XIV. 

Just a suggestion,

Arcus Wm. Ironwyrm
Royal Huntsman of Ansteorra
(up for grabs at Lughnasad)

On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 11:57:50 -0500 "Richard Threlkeld"
<rjt at softwareinnovation.com> writes:
> That is certainly a valid point. We normally assume that fighters 
> will do the right thing. This is a society based on Chivalry and we 
> expect it of the fighters. Someone who is not qualified to use a 
> weapon should not pick it up and use it. 
>  
> On the counter to that, we did mark the fighters who had unpadded 
> glave or fiberglass spear or both with clear markers a couple of 
> years ago. They apparently thought there were people who were 
> picking up a spear or glave and using it without being qualified to 
> do so. I don't know the results of that. It did cause those people 
> to be preferred targets by the other side on the assumption that 
> someone who has more qualifications is more dangerous (not true in 
> my case, for instance).
>  
> But overall, we don't want to put any beaurocracy in place unless we 
> have to. The marshals are busy enough without looking for people who 
> are cheating.
>  
> In service,
> Caelin on Andrede
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: ansteorra-archery-bounces+rjt=acm.org at ansteorra.org on behalf 
> of jim hodek
> Sent: Fri 7/30/2004 11:37 AM
> To: Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra
> Subject: RE: [Ansteorra-archery] Some Gulf War XIII Combat Archery 
> Stats
> 
> 
> How do the marshalls know if any Joe Schmo who is an authorized 
> fighter, but not authorized combat archer isn't out there shooting 
> his crossbow or bow with no idea what the rules are. This seems to 
> present a safety concern for the fighters and spectators.
> 
> Richard Threlkeld <rjt at softwareinnovation.com> wrote: 
> 
>         We inspect the fighter and his/her weapons separately and 
> mark each of them. Any correctly marked fighter may use any 
> correctly marked weapon in an appropriate way. We do not require the 
> weapons only be used by the fighter for whom they were inspected.
>         
>         In service,
>         Capelin on Andrade
>         
>         ________________________________
>         
>         From: ansteorra-archery-bounces+rjt=acm.org at ansteorra.org on 
> behalf of jspinks at ix.netcom.com
>         Sent: Fri 7/30/2004 8:47 AM
>         To: eadric at scabrewer.com; Archery within the Kingdom of 
> Ansteorra
>         Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Some Gulf War XIII Combat 
> Archery Stats
>         
>         
>         
>         Having not been to Gulf War yet (maybe next year) and not 
> knowing the procedure I would like to inquire of one thing- I 
> understand the logic of getting equipment inspected in bulk but are 
> there no direct records of authorized combat archers and marshals 
> that could! use the equipment? If safety is the main concern then it 
> would seem we should know who is using the equipment.
>         
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: Eadric Anstapa 
>         Sent: Jul 27, 2004 4:48 PM
>         To: ansteorra-missile at ansteorra.org
>         Cc: ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org
>         Subject: [Ansteorra-archery] Some Gulf War XIII Combat 
> Archery Stats
>         
>         The Ansteorran Archery Marshallate has kept logbooks at our
>         inspection points at Gulf War for the past two years. This 
> past
>         year the Meridians joined us so now we have data that may or 
> may not
>         have some meaningful information depending on how you want 
> to look
>         at it. For me at least it is interesting and may be useful 
> to our
>         command and marshallate.
>         
>         
>         
>         There appear to have been about 140 archers at war. We say 
> "about"
>         because sometime a unit will send one person down to get all 
> their
>         gear inspected so it is difficult to get an exact count on 
> the
>         number of archers. Some archer! s would come and get 5 or 
> more sets
>         of equipment inspected. 
>         
>         There where 114 unique medalion numbers that came through 
> the
>         inspection point so we are pretty sure there where at least 
> that
>         many archers.
>         
>         There where 174 distinct bows or crossbows inspected so 
> there
>         theoretically could have been as many as as 174 archers on 
> the field
>         at one time.
>         
>         If ya go by where the bows or crossbows came from:
>         31% of the archers where from Meridies
>         30% of the archers where from Ansteorra
>         28% of the archers were from Trimaris
>         5% from the Middle
>         3% from Calontir
>         1 archer each from kingoms of Atlantia, West, and 
> Aethelmarc.
>         
>         Ansteorra and Allies were outnumbered 3/2 with roughly 60% 
> of the
>         archers with Trimaris and her allies and 40% to Ansteorra 
> and our
>         Allies.
>         
>         
>         There were 103 crossbows inspected at war. 
>         
>         There were 3 heavy crossbows over 600 IP. All three heavy 
> crossbows
>         were from our Midrealm allies. 
>         
>         Avera! ge in/lbs for crossbows was 466. Low was 228. High 
> was 782
>         (heavy crossbow, there was an 800 limit). 
>         
>         It looks like the average crossbow by GW Kingdom was:
>         
>         Meridies 425 Inch Pounds
>         Ansteorra 481 Inch Pounds
>         Trimaris 491 Inch Pounds 
>         
>         
>         There were 71 bows inspected at war. There were 11 heavy 
> bows over
>         30#. One heavy bow was from Aethelmarc, the other 10 frm the 
> Middle
>         and Calontir. Average bow poundage was 30#. Low was 16#; 
> high was
>         48# (heavy bow). 
>         
>         
>         There 4237 total bolts, and 2417 total arrows. 
>         
>         Of those 240 arrows/bolts where of the large tube designs 
> for heavy
>         bows and crossbows. 
>         
>         
>         There were 321 wooden shafted bolts, none were from 
> Ansteorra. 80
>         from Atlantia, 107 from Meridies, 174 from Trimaris. 
>         
>         
>         There were 104 wooden arrows of which only 6 where from 
> Ansteorra,
>         80 where from Trimaris, 18 from Meridies.
>         
>         
>         For APDs 41% were Asgard APDs, 31% were Siloflex APDs, 23% 
> were Golf
>         Tube ! APDs, and 5% where some other minor types.
>         
>         
>         
>         Regards,
>         
>         --
>         Arcus Eadric Anstapa
>         Kingdom Archery Marshal, Ansteorra
>         eadric at scabrewer.com
>         
>         
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