[Ansteorra-archery] Youth Archery Division

Sun May 2 17:18:31 PDT 2004

Yes there will be some open shooting. It will tend to be before and after 
competitions both days. If people want to shoot during the Archer's Flight 
luncheon and someone is willing to run the range, they are welcome to do so. 
Being from the cooler clime's of An Tir, the heat is not kind to me so I am 
going to have to pace myself a bit and pass off the non competition stuff to 
someone else. Either that or you guys will be carrying me off by the time 
the Steppes Archer competition begins.

I think it should be said that only mad dogs, Englishmen and Ansteorrans go 
out in the mid day sun  :) This will be my second whole summer here. I'm 
really trying to enjoy the heat, but MAN! my poor web-footed brain does 
suffer.

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Bob Dewart" <gilli at hot.rr.com>
Reply-To: Archery within the Kingdom of 
Ansteorra<ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
To: "Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra" 
<ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Youth Archery Division
Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 19:00:58 -0500

At the big events, there is usually lots going on, that is true.  And having
a Novice or Bowman competitions are GREAT.

Are you having any OPEN shooting during Warlord?  I hope so.  That would be
the perfect time to do it.  Just add a couple of extra targets.  Need a few
more?  Just let me know and I'll bring some.

Folks, I wouldn't be bring this up if I have seen a need and been asked by
mothers, "Why isn't there something for my child, etc. etc. etc?"  I got
people now who could and would shoot in this new division.  And if others
knew, I'm sure they would too.

I think it's worth a shot for a couple of years.  If there's no more
participation in it than the Children's Division, we can stop it.

But this is doable.

Gilli
The more arrows you loose, the more that can hit GOLD.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Susan Hill" <sueorintx at hotmail.com>
To: <ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Youth Archery Division

 > The age group you speak of is one that I have noticed plays less all the
way
 > around in the SCA. It's not just archery. This is a group that is very
 > involved in separating from their parents and in doing more things with
 > their schools than they did earlier. It is a natural thing for them to 
NOT
 > want to have anything to do with anything their parents do. They don't
want
 > to go places and do things with their families as much. Again, this is
 > normal. The kids who would be more interested may be the kids who's
parents
 > think that the SCA is a bunch of crackpots wearing dresses and funny 
hats.
 > Unfortunately they have to have parental permission to participate in our
 > organization so most of them don't get involved until they are 18.
 >
 > We have a few youth in the Steppes who do come out for archery from time
to
 > time. They are usually so busy with band, Scouting, sports, and other
school
 > activities that they dont get out to the practice range very often. We
 > welcome them and offer them encouragement and help as much as they can.
They
 > just dont have time for us.
 >
 > I don't think that creating a new division is the answer. That will only
 > serve to further divide the precious time that we marshalls have for
events
 > as it is. I already have 4 shooting events to run at Warlord. I can't
 > imagine putting in a fifth. 14 to 18 year olds are more than welcome to
join
 > us in the novice shoot. This is one place where I think we can work to
make
 > this kids feel welcome. They don't have the time to practice like many of
us
 > do, but they love to shoot. By offering Bowman's or Novice shoots we can
 > encourage them to compete and participate more, even if they have to 
stand
 > side by side an adult. My son is 14. He likes to shoot when he is here
 > visiting, but he doesnt have the opportunity to do so when he is at his
 > dad's (dad is one of those that thinks we are crackpots) If he could be
here
 > for Warlord, I think that he could be talked into competing and he would
 > have a good time, but even if he chose to go watch the heavy fighters
 > instead. That's ok. He'll shoot with the big guys eventually, he's been
 > bitten by the bug, he just needs to have the time to do it.
 >
 > Linet Grey
 >
 > ----Original Message Follows----
 > From: "Bob Dewart" <gilli at hot.rr.com>
 > Reply-To: Archery within the Kingdom of
 > Ansteorra<ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
 > To: <eadric at scabrewer.com>,        "Archery within the Kingdom of
 > Ansteorra"<ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
 > Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Youth Archery Division
 > Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 18:04:45 -0500
 >
 > I'll agree that most folks can pull and shoot the poundage bow I shoot.
 > But when I look around, I don't see many of that age that are willing to
 > compete with adults.  Precious few.  And I can't accept that since HG
 > Patrick Michael's son, who by the way is a mighty fine young archer, did
it;
 > everyone else should too.
 >
 > If it's so typical, how come they aren't out there kicking my 50 year old
 > butt??  And please, don't say because I'm that good or something like
that.
 > I look at the scores from other pplaces.  I know where I stand.
 >
 > And besides, its just one more division that won't get update scores out.
 > Opss, did I print that?
 >
 > Gilli
 > The more arrows you loose, the more that can hit GOLD.
 > ----- Original Message -----
 > From: "Eadric Anstapa" <eadric at scabrewer.com>
 > To: "Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra"
 > <ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
 > Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 4:55 PM
 > Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Youth Archery Division
 >
 >
 >  > Bob Dewart <gilli at hot.rr.com> said:
 >  >
 >  >
 >  > > What do you all think?
 >  > >
 >  >
 >  >
 >  > I think that most youth particularly young men in that age range
 >  > should be shooting witht he adults.  Most 15 year old boys are
 >  > capable of shooting any bow at any range that I am.  VERY Few
 >  > people shoot bows heavier than 45 pounds.  Most  (almost all)
 >  > youngsters (boysw and girls) of that age are capable of drawing
 >  > adult sized and weight bows and typically they learn more quickly.
 >  >
 >  > Personally I dont think there is a need to add any new divisions.
 >  >
 >  > Regards,
 >  >
 >  > --
 >  > HL Eadric Anstapa
 >  > Ansteorra
 >  > eadric at scabrewer.com
 >  >
 >  >
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