[Ansteorra-archery] Youth Archery Division

Susan Hill sueorintx at hotmail.com
Sun May 2 20:21:38 PDT 2004 



----Original Message Follows----
From: "Bob Dewart" <gilli at hot.rr.com>
Reply-To: Archery within the Kingdom of 
Ansteorra<ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
To: "Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra" 
<ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Youth Archery Division
Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 21:45:38 -0500

How do you think the "big shots" got to be that way?  Just one word.
Practice.  Not all of us live on big pieces of property or have a range in 
our backyard. I'd love to be able to put the hours in that you do. Again, 
getting the kids out to practice is the biggest thing. Thanks for validating 
that arguement.

Perhaps the archery community is differant up there.  But all
skill levels are welcomed here. Are they? I've seen that kind of thing on 
the surface or heard about it from lots more places than 'up here', and have 
seen people talk the talk, but not all of them practice what they preach.

So, if there was a Youth Division you would not support it?  Is that what
I'm hearing?  Because it might help the kid to become better than you can
be?  Did I get that correct? Well you need to learn to read better. I didnt 
say anywhere that I wouldnt support it, I said that I think we can work with 
what we have and improve on how we use it.

I'd be tickle pink if a kid could out shoot me.  Means will have better
scores for the IKAC and IKCAC. I'd rather have a kid shoot better than me 
because he loves to shoot for the joy of it and not necessarily the 
competition. I think that we place a bit too much emphasis on that aspect of 
the sport. That's why it isn't much fun for some of the kids or novices to 
shoot. You have validated another point of mine, thanks again.

Gilli
The more arrows you loose, the more that can hit GOLD.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Susan Hill" <sueorintx at hotmail.com>
To: <ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Youth Archery Division


 > A lot of people think that the kids get frustrated well, let me tell you,
 > all of the novices, youth or otherwise do. I think it's not so much an 
age
 > thing as it is the way that the archery community as a whole seems to
treat
 > the less experienced or lower scoring archers. Due to a physical
condition,
 > I will never be able to shoot particularly well. I have made bowman by 
the
 > skin of my teeth and will be fortunate to ever top that. I have recently
 > watched a young man who had never shot before, outshoot my average within
a
 > couple of weeks. He is under 16. Unfortunately he doesn't come out
 > regularly.
 >
 > I know that there are a few things that I can do to improve...give up my
 > longbow for a recurve probably would help a bit but I like the periodness
of
 > a longbow. I'm never treated badly, but it IS hugely intimidating to try
to
 > compete with the 'big shots', knowing that you will be out in the first
 > round. Last year watching better shooters try to come up with excuses and
 > reasons to try to enter the Novice tourney at Warlord was very
frustrating.
 > Why can't we have chances at decent prizes without those that can shoot
 > circles around us trying to jostle their way in? Whether joking or not, 
it
 > did leave an impression.
 >
 > Getting the novices and the youth out to practices will do them as much
good
 > as another division and with less work. As the kids get older, at
practices,
 > make sure that they spend some time shooting at longer distances. Keeping
 > them shorter will only delay their adaptation. Sooner or later they will
hit
 > the top of their age group and will have to shoot against the adults
anyway.
 > If they are still used to shooting shorter distances, they will still be
at
 > a disadvantage, just as will any adult who only shoots at 20 yard
distances
 > indoors all year.
 >
 > Get them out to practices and more tournaments for novices and those in
the
 > lower rankings will make them more confident and score better without
 > keeping them at the kid's table, so to speak. That and really show these
 > folks that you care. Take them under your wing. These are the people that
 > the better shooters should be taking on as students and proteges. Find a
kid
 > that has promise and guide them. Making a protege out of someone who
already
 > has an average in the 60's makes the whole idea of protege's useless as
far
 > as I am concerned. They already know most of what they need to do, they
just
 > need to practice more or refine their techniques a bit. It will be a lot
 > more rewarding to invest the time to turn a kid who shoots into an 
archer.
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > ----Original Message Follows----
 > From: "Ron Bentley" <whitewolf at sabinenet.com>
 > Reply-To: Ron Bentley <whitewolf at sabinenet.com>,        Archery within 
the
 > Kingdom of Ansteorra<ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
 > To: <eadric at scabrewer.com>,        "Archery within the Kingdom of
 > Ansteorra"<ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
 > Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Youth Archery Division
 > Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 20:49:47 -0500
 >
 > I don't think there needs to be any new divisions either.
 >
 > My two sons shoot and if they would practice more. Not just before a 
shot,
 > they would have higher scores.  For anyone to improve their scores, they
 > must spend more time shooting.
 >
 > Aaron
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > ----- Original Message -----
 > From: "Eadric Anstapa" <eadric at scabrewer.com>
 > To: "Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra"
 > <ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
 > Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 4:55 PM
 > Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Youth Archery Division
 >
 >
 >  > Bob Dewart <gilli at hot.rr.com> said:
 >  >
 >  >
 >  > > What do you all think?
 >  > >
 >  >
 >  >
 >  > I think that most youth particularly young men in that age range
 >  > should be shooting witht he adults.  Most 15 year old boys are
 >  > capable of shooting any bow at any range that I am.  VERY Few
 >  > people shoot bows heavier than 45 pounds.  Most  (almost all)
 >  > youngsters (boysw and girls) of that age are capable of drawing
 >  > adult sized and weight bows and typically they learn more quickly.
 >  >
 >  > Personally I dont think there is a need to add any new divisions.
 >  >
 >  > Regards,
 >  >
 >  > --
 >  > HL Eadric Anstapa
 >  > Ansteorra
 >  > eadric at scabrewer.com
 >  >
 >  >
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