[Ansteorra-archery] An offer to anyone who dares take it.

Susan Hill sueorintx at hotmail.com
Mon May 23 09:26:20 PDT 2005


OK, gentlemen, time to take this off the boards. Personal attacks are not 
appropriate or honorable in any form in a public forum, though after reading 
the post you have taken offense at, Ulrich, I am not seeing where your honor 
was attacked in any way. Arcus Jaque merely said that he considered that 
people chose not to use devices such as sights, preferring to keep the field 
of competition as level as possible as a matter of honor. At no point did he 
question yours. Your personal attack, however, should have been taken off 
the boards. Where his comment was a generalization, yours is extremely 
explicit and is offensive and inappropriate in this forum.

You seem to have lost your sense of humor in the past two year, sir. I 
suggest you go look for it. You took major offense at a clear jest from me. 
I included a wink to indicate I was teasing and you still took offense.

Now, gentlemen, I hope that this topic gets closed or taken off list, ere 
the powers above see fit to take more action than my humble comments.

Actions speak louder than the loudest words. Prove your honor by what you 
do, not by arguing about it. Honor speaks for itself.

Lyneya de Grey

----Original Message Follows----
From: David Ruff <davidsbox01 at yahoo.com>
Reply-To: Archery within the Kingdom of 
Ansteorra<ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
To: jspinks at ix.netcom.com,        Archery within the Kingdom of 
Ansteorra<ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] An offer to anyone who dares take it.
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 09:03:16 -0700 (PDT)

Thank you, that offer even applies to you my friend, even tho your a bow 
shooter :P

Now my friend, you are questioning my honor..... you have done so in open 
forum, something i deem as serious.

You speak of honor as if i am not honorable becuase i choose to use period 
ways, like the sight marks on the limb of a bow is any less honorable. When 
i shoot sightless i shoot with no referance other then the tip of my bolt. 
YET a bow shoots with sight marks - i do not see your call to them about 
being unhonorable.

YOU yourself where there the day i willingly told the score keeper to drop 
my 105 royal average due to questions of period or not.

YOU yourself asked me to remove my screw on my stock as it might be 
construde as a kisser button. Yet i am unhonorable?

YOU asked me not to notch my tips to use as blade sights EVEN THO it was 
period to spin the bodkin in a way to use the top as a blade front sight.

YOU told me there would be questions on using more then 100# in a prod, and 
i said i would not.

I am unhonorable?

You even laughed when you heard i bench build my bolts to within 3 grains of 
eachother. Any bolt i carry is balanced and grain matched - im a shooter, 
thats what shooters do.

You question my ability to shoot without sights. Would you care to challenge 
that on the field? or infront of a crowd? I would be happy to prove my 
ability with a sightless crossbow if your questioning it in a friendly test 
of skill. I see you calling me out and questioning my honor M'lord, and if 
you wish, i can certainly rise to that private challenge. But that challenge 
has nothing to do with this titled shoot.

What say you?

Ulrich





jspinks at ix.netcom.com wrote:
A well said and most genourous offer.
Arcus Jaque


-----Original Message-----
From: David Ruff
Sent: May 23, 2005 8:37 AM
To: Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra
Subject: [Ansteorra-archery] An offer to anyone who dares take it.


I have thought about it over this past 36 hours i have seemed to get put 
into the whole crossbow and shooting light. I have to tell you a select few 
have really put a bee in my bonnett. I even dare say to the point where i 
REALLY look forward to the day i shoot against them.

But we are all adults here and we are all supposed to support our fellow 
ARCHERS.


So i offer my services, my work shop, my blueprints, my knowledge, my time 
and all my contacts for the supplies to build a crossbow, a longbow, a 
recurve, a stonebow, a bulletbow or a repeating crossbow. If you want to go 
run of the mill to high end A&S show piece - we can do that. If you need 
doc's to support anything on any of the listed weapons, i offer that as 
well.

I will even help you get started and help you from start to finish. 
Knowledge is free. The only thing i ask in return is if we use my shop to 
help off set dulling blades and maybe a cold soda every now and then - at 
that, i will perform backflips and beg on command.

So to anyone in the area - or outside the area - i offer this, full shop and 
the knowledge of how to do it with a guiding hand ---- take it, leave it, 
love it or hate it. The light will be on for ya. At the very minimum this 
gives an out to those that believe that they can't have what others do and 
compete. Now the playing field is even and the ball resides in your court.


Ulrich Of Carolingia




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