[Ansteorra-archery] Fw: [Middleford] a forward from HL Gilbert Ost Westley

[Gilli]

While it may be a "private" competition in that it is not sponsored by the 
SCA; it is an SCA competition because it must be shot at a group sponsored 
activity.

The current Keeper is VERY hard to get a hold of.  However; there is a 
person in this Kingdom who has worked very closely with all three of the 
Keepers including Sir John FitzRuaf, the originator of the IKAC/IKCAC.  That 
person is Arcus Gilbert Ost Westley, perhaps you have heard of him  :).  I 
have been doing the competition in the Kingdom since the very early 90's. 
Many of the current rules in the IKAC/IKCAC are of my suggestion.

While the IKAC is a "private" competition, it is one universally used 
through the Known World.

Well then support this; when Arcus Moregg, the Southern Regional Archery 
Marshal came down to do our authorization cards, she said she had NO problem 
with us having archery scheduled every day.  We just hadn't been able to get 
past all the political crap going on down here.  Until recently, Middleford 
had archery scheduled every day of the week.  Perhaps that's why Middleford 
does so well in that competition?

You were overzealous on saying even if the contract thing was settled, 
Burkhaven range would be unacceptable.  You have NEVER even been here, even 
though you've been to a Middleford event.  I have one of the better if not 
the best range in the Kingdom.

But that, and other items ( the INCIDENT among them) will be being appealed 
as soon as I come off this night shift thing at work.  Tonight is the last 
night for that. hopefully I'll have them in the mail early next week.

Cheers,

Gilli
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pug Bainter" <pug at pug.net>
To: "Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra" 
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Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Fw: [Middleford] a forward from HL Gilbert 
Ost Westley


> Good Morning,
>
>  Some of the items of why Arcus Gilli raised his issues will be
>  addressed in my upcoming Archery Marshal report for the Blackstar. I
>  will post a copy of it here when I'm done with it.
>
>> I guess the thing *we* all have been told that a group can have as many 
>> non
>> calendar events as they want is a LIE.
>
>  While not a Seneschal it is my understanding that there are 3 kinds
>  of events. Kingdom Calendar (which includes "multi-group" events),
>  Local Calendar and Non-Calendar events. The first 2 are SCA events
>  that are covered by all the rules of the SCA and protection by the
>  corporate insurance because of these rules. Official guild meetings
>  and pratices are on the group calendar and thus a Local Calendar event.
>
>  Non-Calendar events are *not* SCA events as it is not on the Kingdom
>  nor Local Calendar and the Corporation does not provide insurance nor
>  guidelines. This means many things including the fact that things that
>  must happen at 'official' events can not occur here. These are such
>  things as a private fighter practice at my house, a Pennsic Pity Party
>  and the like.
>
>  You can have non-SCA archery whenever and wherever you want because I
>  nor any other officer in the SCA has any control over that. When you
>  want to have official SCA archery practice it is a Local Calendar event
>  and must follow guidelines.
>
>> Why do you, as the Kingdom Archery Marshal have to get involved and say 
>> how
>> many times a month a group can hold practice??  Why limit what they can
>> do?? Why do you not EVER let the Southern Regional Marshal even attempt 
>> to
>> do her job.  Is there something wrong with the chair in front of your
>> computer that makes you just jump in there??
>
>  When there needs to be a ruling because of a violation of Corporate SCA
>  policy in the area of Archery, in this Kingdom it is my job to make
>  the final decision, give any punishments and to take the brunt of
>  any backlash from those decisions. I did this because the issue was
>  escalated to me by multiple officers. The buck stopped here and I did
>  what I saw was the right thing. If my Regionals make a decision of this
>  nature, I will fully back them but some decisions are more difficult
>  to handle because of the politics and individuals involved.
>
>> If you knew about  the IKAC, you'd know that is the common and encouraged
>> practice.
>
>  I have tried to discuss items with this *private* competition organizer
>  but haven't gotten any response from them so I am on my own in how to
>  interpret the rules for it. I have tried on multiple occasions to
>  contact the person listed for IKAC but they do not return my inquiries.
>
>> Here's another clue,  I fully expect YOU to pull my card for some BS like
>> insubordination. Have a nice day.  And sleep well.. Your conscientious 
>> has
>> got to be troubled.  Mine would be doing this crap.
>
>  If I was going to pull your card for an arbitrary reason, I would have
>  done it in regards to the recent incident that I was made aware of. I
>  made sure when I was determining which Archery Marshal was present at
>  the incident to only take action that was appropriate instead of being
>  overzealous.
>
>  But if you'd prefer it, I can remove your Archery authorizations.
>
>  My conscience is completely clear in this case.
>
> In Service,
>
> -- 
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