[Ansteorra-archery] Ansteorra-archery Digest, Vol 31, Issue 27

[Susan McMahill]

I don't know about that, Arthur. There is at least one knight that has been posting that is less than thrilled with CA and he is from Ansteorra. At least I sure see his name on the Ansteorran list from time to time. While he isn't as negative as some, he certainly isn't positive, either.
 
Lyneya de Grey
Well-behaved women Seldom make history - Laurel Thatcher Ulrich



From: ld.blackmoon at cox.netTo: debbnglenn at centurytel.net; ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.orgDate: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:21:20 -0600Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Ansteorra-archery Digest, Vol 31, Issue 27


greetings 
 
first let me say , that while several out of kingdom  kings / dukes / knights  have expressed strong desire to see combat archery done away with completely ,or heavily modified  , usualy stating that it is for " safety reasons " . 
however , i have to date seen no anti combat archery posts made by ansteorran knights !
yes , fear can ruin everything, but that sword cuts both ways. over reacting to false statements can cause just as much trouble as making false statements.
please don't let the words of a few loud nay sayers , prompt anything less than an honorable response . 
remember , our kingdom , doesn't suffer so much from this sad disease.
i am not very familiar with other kingdoms ways or systems of honor , so i can't say for sure ,
 
but just maybe , at least in ansteorra, our people look at " honor and acting honorably " as more than something you swear to do once, and never have to think about again ??
perhaps putting your own " feelings " aside for the benifit of the kingdom isn't some strange thought brought on by too much drink .
 
but who knows  ; )
 
keep going to events, keep having fun , the society just changed the combat rules, so i don't see them suddenly dropping combat archery .
 
be safe, be happy,have fun
arthur

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From: Glenn Long 
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It never fails. Fear ruins everything. I have been doing this for a heckof a long time and have seen ZERO injuries due to combat archery. I haveseen injuries due to poor helmet fit, bad armor strapping, poor fightingability, lack of fitness, poor shield design, and about a dozen otherthings. I think what we have is a bunch of "invincibles" who get theirpanties in a wad because a lowly "peasant" can take them out with a wellplaced shot. Their answer is to make arrows that SUCK! Why don't we justmake our swords out of siloflex too! That way no body can get hurt whensomeone strikes them.This is another example of why the SCA will one day be no better than arole-playing fantasy group. Maybe we should all carry multi sided diceand we can just throw them at each other!Jeez....wussies suck the fun out of everything!Reinhardt Stahlhelm-----Original Message-----From: ansteorra-archery-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org[mailto:ansteorra-archery-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org] On Behalf Ofansteorra-archery-request at lists.ansteorra.orgSent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 3:55 PMTo: ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.orgSubject: Ansteorra-archery Digest, Vol 31, Issue 27Send Ansteorra-archery mailing list submissions toansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.orgTo subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visithttp://lists.ansteorra.org/listinfo.cgi/ansteorra-archery-ansteorra.orgor, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' toansteorra-archery-request at lists.ansteorra.orgYou can reach the person managing the list atansteorra-archery-owner at lists.ansteorra.orgWhen replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specificthan "Re: Contents of Ansteorra-archery digest..."Today's Topics:   1. 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(Mike Wyvill)----------------------------------------------------------------------Message: 1Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:52:51 -0800 (PST)From: Mike Gideon <mg1m at swbell.net>Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Newest Attack on CA?To: Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra<ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org>Message-ID: <118443.6889.qm at web82403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"Lucan's squire was the one struck/injuredMichel________________________________From: Ken Theriot <kentheriot at ravenboymusic.com>To: Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra<ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org>Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 3:48:50 PMSubject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Newest Attack on CA?Was it Lucan ( East Kingdom ) or Logan (Atlantia)??Kenneth? ?________________________________From:Mike Gideon [mailto:mg1m at swbell.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 3:09 PMTo: Archery within the Kingdom of AnsteorraSubject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Newest Attack on CA??But let it be know also that this incident was 2 years ago, and wasnever reported to the MIC or CAMIC of the event in Atlantia.I believe.?Michel mac DonnchaidKMM?________________________________From:Mike Wyvill <wyvillmike at hotmail.com>To: ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.orgSent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 2:25:55 PMSubject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Newest Attack on CA?Sir Kenneth,?It's true. There are a few?knights and masters?on the Missile Combatlist, some of whom are advocating a single society standard and thatstandard would be tube ammo. In fact some are actually advocating thatwe go to a single manufacturer!?What is driving this is the fear that a fiberglass shaft will penetratea blunt and then someone's eye. I and others have been trying toreassure them of the safety of fiberglass shafts when wedded to UHMWblunts. Some have actually come around to a point. Others lofted theiropinions and then left. I have to say, a number of the posters on thelist (CA proponents and anti-CA types) have been less than courteous. ?Duke Lucan has posted an account by one of his squires stating that hewas struck below his eye by a blunt-less shaft. So those that dislike CAhas an incident to point to. ?EdVEMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOODJoin me ?________________________________From: kentheriot at ravenboymusic.comTo: ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.orgDate: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:11:58 -0600Subject: [Ansteorra-archery] Newest Attack on CA?What information does anyone here have on this?? Sir Lyonel just postedthis to the Chiv list.?A number of knights in various kingdoms are pressing, lately, to banfibreglass shaft ammunition and allow only 100# siloflex bolts andarrows on the battlefield. ?I confess that I don?t frequent the SCA-wide lists, so I hadn?t heard ofthis until now.? Does this have a chance?? What is driving this?? Lyonelput a pool out to our list to get the opinion of our chivalry on itasking just one question??do you agree with this??? I don?t expect manyof the Ansteorran chivalry to support such an idiotic (sorry?to strong aword?) proposal.? I just wanted to find out what anyone else might knowabout it.?Thanks.?Kenneth-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL:<http://lists.ansteorra.org/pipermail/ansteorra-archery-ansteorra.org/attachments/20081216/a4f64737/attachment-0001.htm>------------------------------Message: 2Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:54:29 +0000From: Mike Wyvill <wyvillmike at hotmail.com>Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Newest Attack on CA?To: <ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org>Message-ID: <BAY133-W397EB2A84EBA5863172B74D4F50 at phx.gbl>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"Duke Lucan.  EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOODJoin meFrom: kentheriot at ravenboymusic.comTo:ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.orgDate: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:48:50-0600Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Newest Attack on CA?Was it Lucan (East Kingdom) or Logan (Atlantia)? Kenneth   From: Mike Gideon [mailto:mg1m at swbell.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 16,2008 3:09 PMTo: Archery within the Kingdom of AnsteorraSubject: Re:[Ansteorra-archery] Newest Attack on CA? But let it be know also that this incident was 2 years ago, and wasnever reported to the MIC or CAMIC of the event in Atlantia.I believe. Michel mac DonnchaidKMM From: Mike Wyvill <wyvillmike at hotmail.com>To:ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.orgSent: Tuesday, December 16, 20082:25:55 PMSubject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Newest Attack on CA?SirKenneth, It's true. There are a few knights and masters on the MissileCombat list, some of whom are advocating a single society standard andthat standard would be tube ammo. In fact some are actually advocatingthat we go to a single manufacturer! What is driving this is the fearthat a fiberglass shaft will penetrate a blunt and then someone's eye. Iand others have been trying to reassure them of the safety of fiberglassshafts when wedded to UHMW blunts. Some have actually come around to apoint. Others lofted their opinions and then left. I have to say, anumber of the posters on the list (CA proponents and anti-CA types) havebeen less than courteous.  Duke Lucan has posted an account by one ofhis squires stating that he was struck below his eye by a blunt-lessshaft. So those that dislik e CA has an incident to point to.  EdVEMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOODJoin me From: kentheriot at ravenboymusic.comTo:ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.orgDate: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:11:58-0600Subject: [Ansteorra-archery] Newest Attack on CA?What information does anyone here have on this?  Sir Lyonel just postedthis to the Chiv list. A number of knights in various kingdoms are pressing, lately, to banfibreglass shaft ammunition and allow only 100# siloflex bolts andarrows on the battlefield.  I confess that I don?t frequent the SCA-wide lists, so I hadn?t heard ofthis until now.  Does this have a chance?  What is driving this?  Lyonelput a pool out to our list to get the opinion of our chivalry on itasking just one question??do you agree with this??  I don?t expect manyof the Ansteorran chivalry to support such an idiotic (sorry?to strong aword?) proposal.  I just wanted to find out what anyone else might knowabout it. Thanks. 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