[Ansteorra-archery] advice for 3 kings'

[Eadric Anstapa]

Loch Soillier did something similar 7 or 8 years ago.  Basically they 
had 3 or 4 various targets setup around the perimeter of meadow.  They 
had the archer kneel in the bed of a F150 pickup truck and it drive 
around the meadow slowly.  As soon as it crossed a certain point well 
away form the bystanders the archers were told they could start shooting 
and they go the chance to take as many shots at the targets as they 
wanted to while they were moving past the targets.  At a certain point 
again well before getting back near the bystanders the truck would stop 
the archer would get out and go collect their arrows and total their 
score while the truck went back and got setup for another archer.   They 
were cautious enough that I didn't have any real safety concerns but I 
sure wished that there had been some real good padding in the bed of 
that truck to kneel on.

Sir Henri did something a few years ago in Stonebridge Keep where he 
basically made a sawhorse pony on wheels that the archer set astride and 
it was pulled slowly across the firing line while the archer was shooting. 

I didn't have any great safety concerns with the above.  There were very 
experiences marshals present  with experienced archers and they took 
great care but I might have had more concerns if there were more novice 
archers.

I also had some concerns that these types of shoots might leave some 
archers out, perhaps the very novice, or perhaps the handicapped who 
aren't able to  crawl into or sit astride the contraption.

I had considered that something like this might be better done by 
placing the archer on a bucking barrel.  Either one suspended on ropes 
like the one I had as a boy or one on a big spring like the old 
playground horses you used to see.  Put a saddle on it if you want.  
Have it high enough that the archers feet are off the ground when 
sitting bent kneed as you would on a horse and that way they could 
always stand up as needed.  If you feel that simply having them sit with 
feet off the ground on a contraption that is going to sway around a bit 
as they move while shooting at a moving target isn't hard enough then 
attach a good to the bucking barrel and tug on it a bit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bb8B8ZwOUPY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-8ZhmPXl8E

The bucking barrel can be setup between 3 or 4 posts firmly in the 
ground or between trees.  Garage door springs at the tops of the ropes 
and the last 2 feet or so of rope actually use chain and quicklinks so 
that it can be quickly adjusted by taking up a link at a time when needed 

Regards,

-EA



Karen Calhoun wrote:
> I would like to ask for your opinion.  The heavy marshal and seneschal 
> for Rosenfeld have thrown out a suggestion for 3 Kings this year and 
> I'm not certain that I can back this one up.  I'm new at this and tend 
> to lean in the "over-safe" direction.  Your help and advice would be 
> appreciated.
>  
> It has been proposed that a "cart scenario" be set up to challenge the 
> archers.  The basic task is to shoot from a moving hay cart at 
> assorted targets.  This information is sketchy at the moment but I'm 
> seeing a wagon of some sort with a seat or rail.  The cart would be 
> pulled and the archer must shoot at assorted targets. 
>  
> My concern is the bumping and jostling issue.  Could this cause 
> misfires with the arrow/bolt going in whatever direction?  What kind 
> of safety zone will be required?  Seated, standing or you choose?  How 
> do I keep the person pulling the cart out of the danger zone?
>  
> Again, this is very much in the planning stages.  I am seeking your 
> wisdom to see ifthis idea is even possible and can be performed 
> safely.  I look forward to your suggestions and advice.
>  
> HLy Katya
> Deputy Archery Marshal, Steppes
> Glaslyn's Keeper of the Flame, Archery

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