[Ansteorra-archery] Archery Discussion

[Eric Brown]

Yes thanks for the numbers! are there any other good archery statistic 
from last  year?

Anyone know how many fought in each battle?

Cal-

Ken Theriot wrote:
> THAT is what I'm talking about!  Data!  Thank you Eadric.  Now we can make
> some really interesting decisions and conclusions, such as...with 61 bows,
> how did we only field 15 at the Archer Ravine Battle?
>
> I personally know of at least 4 fighters who had bows but fought in the
> bridge battle anyway, and three of them were knights (actually one was the
> king;)).
>
> So yeah, it certainly seems to come down to part-time archers and making a
> fighter choose what battle to fight in.  Given the choice between the
> "archer-only" battle, and the bridge battle, the king and the duke (who is
> one of the best spearmen in the SCA) are going to pick the bridge
> battle...I'm guessing...every time.  That isn't true of all knights;), I'll
> take the bow before rattan in a melee every time.  
>
> How to solve that is harder.  His Highness was made aware of the problem
> from last year.  He pointed out that the schedule is FILLED with
> simultaneous war-point scenarios that force folks to choose, such as
> fencing, archery, and equestrian.  He said they literally CAN'T de-conflict
> every war-point scenario.
>
> BUT....we can at least make a deliberate choice as to who does what, which
> was not done last year.  There was no discussion, and every individual
> fighter simply did what they felt like doing.  Centurion Caladin's approach
> will be to make the deliberate choices, and possibly even to assign people
> to fight in a scenario they may not have chosen, for the good of the
> kingdom.  THAT is what was missing last time.
>
> Boy I talk a lot.  OK, shutting up now:).
>
> Kenneth   
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eadric Anstapa [mailto:eadric at scabrewer.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 5:15 PM
> To: Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra
> Cc: commandnet at yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Archery Discussion
>
> Eric Brown wrote:
>   
>> We in recent years have come to gulf with fewer Archers than Trimaris,
>>     
>
> Before we say that we need to look at the data to make sure we 
> understand what is really going on.  The data does not support such a 
> statement.
>
> For instance, looking at last years data:
>
> Ansteorra had  61 Bows inspected and 3368 pieces of Ammo
> Trimaris    had 43 Bows inspected and  3129 pieces of Ammo
>
> So I don't think that there is data to say that in recent years we have 
> come to the war with fewer archers than Trimaris.  We should have been 
> able to field nearly half again as many archers as Trimaris.   Perhaps 
> our archers just didn't show up for all the battles where they were 
> needed and those from Trimaris did.  Perhaps more of our archers are 
> part-time archers and were often wielding some other weapon and perhaps 
> Trimaris has more dedicated archers.
>
> What the data does show is that Ansteorra archers on average only came 
> with about 55 pieces of Ammo per bow while the archers from Trimaris 
> came with on average about 73 pieces of ammo per bow.  So in general the 
> Trimarian archers were better equipped and individually were going to be 
> able to shoot more and have to conserve less and have the needed ammo to 
> be able to pour on the shots when needed.
>
> Regards,
>
> -EA
>
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