[Ansteorra-archery] Archery Discussion
Eric Brown
caladin at io.com
Thu Oct 2 19:36:49 PDT 2008
Yes thanks for the numbers! are there any other good archery statistic
from last year?
Anyone know how many fought in each battle?
Cal-
Ken Theriot wrote:
> THAT is what I'm talking about! Data! Thank you Eadric. Now we can make
> some really interesting decisions and conclusions, such as...with 61 bows,
> how did we only field 15 at the Archer Ravine Battle?
>
> I personally know of at least 4 fighters who had bows but fought in the
> bridge battle anyway, and three of them were knights (actually one was the
> king;)).
>
> So yeah, it certainly seems to come down to part-time archers and making a
> fighter choose what battle to fight in. Given the choice between the
> "archer-only" battle, and the bridge battle, the king and the duke (who is
> one of the best spearmen in the SCA) are going to pick the bridge
> battle...I'm guessing...every time. That isn't true of all knights;), I'll
> take the bow before rattan in a melee every time.
>
> How to solve that is harder. His Highness was made aware of the problem
> from last year. He pointed out that the schedule is FILLED with
> simultaneous war-point scenarios that force folks to choose, such as
> fencing, archery, and equestrian. He said they literally CAN'T de-conflict
> every war-point scenario.
>
> BUT....we can at least make a deliberate choice as to who does what, which
> was not done last year. There was no discussion, and every individual
> fighter simply did what they felt like doing. Centurion Caladin's approach
> will be to make the deliberate choices, and possibly even to assign people
> to fight in a scenario they may not have chosen, for the good of the
> kingdom. THAT is what was missing last time.
>
> Boy I talk a lot. OK, shutting up now:).
>
> Kenneth
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eadric Anstapa [mailto:eadric at scabrewer.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 5:15 PM
> To: Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra
> Cc: commandnet at yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Archery Discussion
>
> Eric Brown wrote:
>
>> We in recent years have come to gulf with fewer Archers than Trimaris,
>>
>
> Before we say that we need to look at the data to make sure we
> understand what is really going on. The data does not support such a
> statement.
>
> For instance, looking at last years data:
>
> Ansteorra had 61 Bows inspected and 3368 pieces of Ammo
> Trimaris had 43 Bows inspected and 3129 pieces of Ammo
>
> So I don't think that there is data to say that in recent years we have
> come to the war with fewer archers than Trimaris. We should have been
> able to field nearly half again as many archers as Trimaris. Perhaps
> our archers just didn't show up for all the battles where they were
> needed and those from Trimaris did. Perhaps more of our archers are
> part-time archers and were often wielding some other weapon and perhaps
> Trimaris has more dedicated archers.
>
> What the data does show is that Ansteorra archers on average only came
> with about 55 pieces of Ammo per bow while the archers from Trimaris
> came with on average about 73 pieces of ammo per bow. So in general the
> Trimarian archers were better equipped and individually were going to be
> able to shoot more and have to conserve less and have the needed ammo to
> be able to pour on the shots when needed.
>
> Regards,
>
> -EA
>
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