[Ansteorra-archery] Third Quarter 2008 Royal Round Keeper Report

Mon Sep 8 14:15:34 PDT 2008

The only way to encourage people to shoot Royal Rounds is to have them where
and when people are around.  Many people in the SCA are dabblers.  We each have
a primary interest and dabble a little here and a little there in
other activites and time
and opportunity allows.

The archery at Gate's Edge Saturday was impressive.  The numbers of participants
was fantastic!   As a matter of fact the shear number of people
already particating
was part of the reason I didn't this time.

I know that the seneca run does take time.  I had the pleasure to
visit and watch
from the side lines.  But for the most part it is not a spectator
event. I enjoyed
visiting the people waiting in line for their turn to do the run.
What I am curious
about is what prevented shooting a RR?  It might have been something for the
people not doing the seneca run to do while they waited. You say that you were
equipped to run a RR but it didn't happen.  Was it a lack of marshals?

Just curious,
--Francois

On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Mike Wyvill <wyvillmike at hotmail.com> wrote:
> I didn't say or mean to imply that it couldn't be done at all events. I said
> that it couldn't be done at ours since we have as part of our championship a
> Seneca Run. That is where archers shoot at a target until they hit it, and
> then advance to the next until at the end they shot at a IKCAC target using
> Combat equipment. Assuming an average of 6 minutes per run (times are
> recorded for placement) our 24 participants would take over 2 and 1/2 hours
> to complete this portion of the event. Many were novices and took far longer
> until it was necessary to institute an 8 minute time limit.
>
> Some events don't lend themselves to the shooting of a RR. Some can. We
> really wanted to have some RRs shot in the afternoon, but the numbers were
> against us. We were equipped to do so, but it wasn't meant to be.
>
> EdV
>
>
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> ________________________________
> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 11:35:09 -0700
> From: jlspinks at sbcglobal.net
> To: ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Third Quarter 2008 Royal Round Keeper
> Report
>
> This is perhaps true but if you get the number on the line it can be done
> fairly quickly.  We have done as high as 34 archers in 2 hours at Warlord as
> part of the Bowman's tourney.  It generally takes about 30 minutes to shoot
> a Royal Round for a line of archers and you can usually get at least 2 and
> sometimes as high as 4 archers per target round.
> Jaque
> --- On Mon, 9/8/08, Mike Wyvill <wyvillmike at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Mike Wyvill <wyvillmike at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Third Quarter 2008 Royal Round Keeper
> Report
> To: "Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra"
> <ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 12:39 PM
>
> The reason I have an average is that I shot an IKAC (and therefore had a RR
> extracted from that) at Bordermarch Baronial. Some events lend themselves to
> be able to do just as you suggest and I think personally that it's a great
> idea. However not all events  can do this. Having just helped run the Gate's
> Edge event this weekend, we just had way too many people competing to make
> allowances for folks to shoot RRs.
>
> It's a great idea though.
>
> Lord Engenulf de Vienville
> Company of St. Sebastian
>
>
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>> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 12:22:37 -0500
>> From: anovy at suddenlink.net
>> To: ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org
>> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Third Quarter 2008 Royal Round Keeper
>> Report
>>
>> I may have a different viewpoint than many on this list, but I think it
>> should be expressed.
>>
>> It is not a great concern of mine to increase my RR score. I am more
>> interested in having fun and using archery as a relaxing diversion from my
>> mundane life. As a result, I am not willing to drive 3 or 4 hours roundtrip,
>> even carpooling, to attend a special practice just so I can get an away
>> score. It takes two very valuable resources: my money and my time. I think
>> this recent push to have special practices has replaced holding Royal Round
>> shoots at events.
>>
>> When I was in the Outlands, at any event at which archery was held, there
>> was also an opportunity to shoot a Royal Round (also, sometimes events that
>> had no other archery scheduled would still hold a RR). Every effort was made
>> to hold one. This made it much easier for the casual archer to still
>> participate and track his or her scores, because if you're at the event
>> anyway, why not shoot a RR and get that away score? Heck, there was a time
>> when my RR score was made up of only away scores shot at events.
>>
>> I believe the Outlands policy was the correct way to go, which is why
>> since I started running archery at Mooneschadowe Guardian/Triumphe 3 years
>> ago, I have held a RR. I will be continuing this tradition this year, and
>> for as long as I run archery for that event.
>>
>> People can hold special practices if they wish. I am not saying they
>> should stop. What I am saying is that you might be surprised at how many
>> more archers start submitting scores if you give them the opportunity at
>> events to do so.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Zorya Prazan
>> Mooneschadowe Archery Marshal
>>
>>
>> ---- Eadric Anstapa <eadric at scabrewer.com> wrote:
>> > Great. The whole point was/is to encourage people to attend some events
>> > and interact archers outside of their home practice. When the
>> > Ansteorran Royal Rounds were created it was noted that there were some
>> > really great archers that virtually never left their home range. Those
>> > really great archers are the ones that we almost want most to go out and
>> > and interact with other people because they are the ones that can
>> > inspire everyone to to better and the ones that can share and teach what
>> > it took for them to get as good as they are.
>> >
>> > The Northern branches have started travelling around to each others
>> > practices in a carpool and thats perfect. Perhaps the Steppes Marshals
>> > can coordinate with the Emerald Keep marshals to do something in Emerald
>> > Keep. It's and easy drive and two hours away, there is no site fee to
>> > pay for a practice, and if ya load as many folks as ya can into the most
>> > fuel efficient car that ya can then it's not a bad day trip. The
>> > Steppes archers then get an away score and they can share and get to
>> > know the Emerald Keep archers better.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > -EA
>> >
>>
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