[Ansteorra-archery] Greetings....I need some help from someone in the Military

[Donnchadh Beag mac Griogair]

Out of curiosity, does that opinion extend to any crossed arrow emblem 
(say one hand-cast by an artisan), or just the ones sold by the US 
Army?  Could you tell the difference?

Just to make sure there is no confusion.  I in no way support the idea 
of representing one's self with honors you haven't earned or in any way 
disrespecting the honorable service of those in uniform.  I just believe 
that crossed arrows are generic enough to mean different things in 
different settings.

Thanks,
Donnchadh

Mike Wyvill wrote:
> As the father of an active duty Infantry sergeant, I can tell you his 
> opinion of wearing that.
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> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 19:46:02 -0700
> From: donnchadh at cornelius.norman.ok.us
> To: ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Greetings....I need some help from 
> someone in the Military
>
> I believe that the emblem Lance was talking about is just two arrows 
> in saltier.  Not a specific badge or emblem that is specific to 
> Special Forces.  Yes they are used by the Special Forces, but they 
> have been in use for centuries before that for other purposes as 
> well.  He was just trying to find a ready source of the emblem.
>
> Now if he wanted wear the emblem on an Army uniform, that would be 
> completely different.  Then again, it wouldn't matter if you wore a 
> white or red belt outside of an SCA setting either.  Context is important.
>
> To sum up, I don't see any disrespect using something as generic as 
> two crossed arrows outside of a US Military setting.
>
> Baron Donnchadh
>
>
> Eadric Anstapa wrote:
>
>     I am with Karl.  I think is is somewhat disrespectful to wear a
>     badge worn by special forces officers, and intended for special
>     forces officers, unless you have been a special forces officer.
>
>     To me its kinda like if you went around wearing a White Bracer on
>     your arm and you weren't a member of the Order.  I would be
>     annoyed at someone who did that.
>
>     Or better yet, if you decided to wear a Red Bracer, a Red Belt,
>     and a Red Scarf.   Those items aren't "official" or protected by
>     our kingdom law.  We simply customarily use them to mean something
>     that is very special to those that wear them.  We honor those
>     people who very carefully consider who they will give those
>     customary insignia to by keeping to those customs and traditions
>     and allowing them to remain special.  Why not honor those who have
>     served our country in the special forces similarly?
>
>     Regards,
>
>     -EA
>
>     Chuck Kaun wrote:
>
>         I am not sure how picky they are, but when I was active, if
>         you wanted some of the special stuff, you had to prove you
>         deserved it.  Unless you know any officers in the special
>         forces, most Joe's wont be able to buy it in a PX.  
>          
>         And to tell the truth, why not find an artist who can make
>         stuff like that?  Its kinda disrespectful to have those things
>         if you havent earned them.
>          
>         Karl T.
>
>
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>         From: huntsmanlance at cox.net <mailto:huntsmanlance at cox.net>
>         To: ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org
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>         Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:06:56 -0600
>         Subject: [Ansteorra-archery] Greetings....I need some help
>         from someone in the Military
>
>
>         *Hi all, we are looking for the brass crossed arrows pin that
>         is used by the Army Special Forces Officer. Here is a link to
>         the site I found that has the cheapest price and quantity ……..
>         **_http://www.priorservice.com/arspfoofba.html_*
>         *The price at $5.00 a pin isnt bad but I thought maybe one of
>         our members who Serve could check their local base and see if
>         they could be bought at a lower price.*
>         *If someone finds anything please e-mail me at
>         huntsmanlance at cox.net <mailto:huntsmanlance at cox.net>*
>         *Thanks!*
>         *Lance*
>
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