[Ansteorra-archery] [Mm] How to increase TA, TW, and CA

[ld.blackmoon]

greetings 

>Our biggest issues are that we are usually located so far away from
the main event area, and often are hard to find.
often this is for safety reasons, but in some instances it is due to " tradition " ( i don't want to move the list field , the list field has always been right there ,  )
> The second biggest issue is
that, since archery is located so far away, even when someone wants to
watch a particular part of the archery competition, they don't know
when it is.  The options seem to be to sit and watch archery all day,
or check on it to see who has done what (and often times the other
archery spectators don't know), or just forget about it all together.
:/  It is very difficult to watch chivalric combat and archery at the
same event because the schedules are so fluid for each.

this is where i'm for getting more professional , and running a set time line ( not sca time ) for all aspects of the shoots , and posting those times at gate, or in the event notice, flyer , etc.
>**Bribing a herald.
ideally , we would have 2 list heralds and 2 field heralds for the entire time the range was open .
>  1) [forgive me, I've forgotten the name of this]: 
clout shoot , ( over 100 yards ) or mini clout , ( usualy 50 yards to 100 yards )
>The difficulty lies in judging the distance,
while ensuring the arrows can fly the distance required. 
there is also windage to consider in a full clout , as the wind at elevation can be drasticly different than at ground level.
>Points are
determined by ....
that depends on the marshal in charge , but traditionaly it would be 3 -2-1 , innermost ring 3 , outermost ring 1 .
>**Set up a score board;
for good or bad , what i have been proposing is preplanning , and advertising each shoot, that way people should know what , when , and where .
> 2) Combat Archery Box Tourney:
while this would be perfect for a missile only event, or a melee event ,or a war practice , it is different equipment, different safety issues, and different marshals than target archery , or thrown weapons .
>**Even if you can't get a herald, get someone who likes to talk to
people to wander around and encourage people to go down to the archery
shoot.  Perhaps they could even be equipped with a walkie-talkie, so
they can keep an ear on the schedule and happenings at the range, and
update people accordingly.  (Heck, maybe even the bribed herald could
use that. ;) )

lets try to keep the walkie talkies for emergency use , using a horn would be more period ; )
>**And of course it always helps draw people out if there is an area or
a time where non-archers or beginning archers can practice shooting.
However, I know there aren't always time or resources for that.

actually , this is again a matter of preplanning and sticking to the plan.

hope i was able to help 

be safe, be happy, havefun
arthur
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: D Barr 
  To: ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 10:21 AM
  Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] [Mm] How to increase TA, TW, and CA


  Just to throw my two cents in:

  As someone who would like to participate, but rarely has the time,
  I've started noticing things from a spectator's standpoint.

  Our biggest issues are that we are usually located so far away from
  the main event area, and often are hard to find.  Sometimes I don't
  even know that there was archery at an event until the thank-you's go
  out, or the winner is announced in court.  The second biggest issue is
  that, since archery is located so far away, even when someone wants to
  watch a particular part of the archery competition, they don't know
  when it is.  The options seem to be to sit and watch archery all day,
  or check on it to see who has done what (and often times the other
  archery spectators don't know), or just forget about it all together.
  :/  It is very difficult to watch chivalric combat and archery at the
  same event because the schedules are so fluid for each.

  A few things that would reduce these issues and bring in more
  spectators would be:
  **Set up banners and signs, not just at the range, but directing
  people to the range.
  **Bribing a herald.  I have attended one event where the archery
  marshal secured a herald, and this helped immensely!  (Yes, I saw the
  previous discussion about the difficulty of this, but they are well
  worth the effort.)
  **Set up a score board; or something that explains the basics of
  scoring each event that is being held.  I have found it difficult in
  the past to find someone who could explain what is going on to me,
  because those who know are either running it or competing in it, and
  the spectators don't know. :)  This could be as simple as:
           1) [forgive me, I've forgotten the name of this]: Three large
  concentric circles are marked on the ground using flag markers.  The
  archers' goal is to land their arrows as close to the center as
  possible (of course).  The difficulty lies in judging the distance,
  while ensuring the arrows can fly the distance required.  Points are
  determined by ....
           2) Combat Archery Box Tourney:  Two 10 foot squares are
  marked on the ground, with 30 feet between the closest edges.  One
  combat archer stands within each square.  Each tries to shoot the
  other, without being shot themselves, and without stepping out of
  their square.  Points are given for: .....
          And etc.

  **Even if you can't get a herald, get someone who likes to talk to
  people to wander around and encourage people to go down to the archery
  shoot.  Perhaps they could even be equipped with a walkie-talkie, so
  they can keep an ear on the schedule and happenings at the range, and
  update people accordingly.  (Heck, maybe even the bribed herald could
  use that. ;) )
  **And of course it always helps draw people out if there is an area or
  a time where non-archers or beginning archers can practice shooting.
  However, I know there aren't always time or resources for that.

  So essentially, let people know that archery is there, and as much as
  possible, keep them appraised of the schedule.  Mark the route to the
  range, so that people can find it.  Have brief explanations of what is
  happening available, just in case none of the marshals or participants
  are available to answer questions.  But the most helpful thing would
  be the herald. ;-)

  --Debbie
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