[Ansteorra-archery] [Ansteorra] Combat Archery Challenge

[Doug Copley]

Ahhh, good information, Thanx!

If Combat Archery continues to grow I can see that one day we just might 
have a champion in each but I think that is still a little ways off, 
however since each group gets to set their own champions it could be 
done at any time:-)

Part of my original misunderstanding was that I was thinking of it in 
terms of being part of the Championship so I am glad we are on the same 
page.

YIS,
Vincenti

On 3/23/2011 11:53 AM, B Scott Mills wrote:
> The is no way you can do without the authorization. We have taken this
> to the Society level on a couple of occasions.
>
> When you are shooting at another live person it becomes "combat" and
> from the Marshals Handbook.
>
>     *II.B.2.* /No person shall participate in Official Combat-Related
>     Activities (including armored combat, period fencing, and combat
>     archery) outside of formal training sessions unless they have been
>     properly authorized under Society and Kingdom procedures. /
>
> So if it is a "tournament" or a "competition" it is almost impossible to
> call it a "formal training session".
>
> I agree with you that I would NOT want it to be part of a Baronies
> "Archery" Championship Tournament because it means that so many people
> that traditionally participate in target archery would have to be
> excluded. However, it does not have to be part of "archery" championship
> and can be a stand alone competition. I am also mindful that Armored
> Combat, Rapier Combat, Equestrian Activities, etc. all required
> authorizations before participation so requiring an authorization for
> certain activities should not be a foreign concept to our members.
> Perhaps if this catches on there will one day be groups that will
> formally recognize both a Target Archery Champion and a Combat Archery
> Champion.
>
> Also, as a point of clarification we got permission at the Society level
> to have both Armored Combat and Rapier Combat Archers participate
> together in these tournaments as long as the weapons are legal on both
> the armored and rapier fields. So you can have a Armored participant in
> one box and 30 foot away in another box have a Rapier participant. There
> is no risk of them making physical contact and as long as the bow/ammo
> is legal for both fields then it is perfectly OK to mix them. This opens
> the tournament up to a few more participants.
>
> Regards,
>
> -EA
>
>
> On 3/23/2011 11:13 AM, Doug Copley wrote:
>> I like the contest and it looks like it would be fun to compete in!
>>
>> I do have a concern about it being used for a Baronial Championship.
>> Since it requires that each participant be fully armored and
>> authorized as a Combat Archer it would seem that it would limit the
>> field of those that could compete significantly.
>>
>> At the Barony of Namron's Championship that is held at Beltane we have
>> in the neighborhood of 38 to 40 (in the adult tourney) that compete
>> for the title and with this restriction that number would drop to less
>> than 15 that could compete.
>>
>> Is there a way to run it that does not require Combat Archery
>> authorization?
>>
>> Have other baronies run it with this restriction and if so how did it
>> affect the participation and the reception?
>>
>> YIS,
>> Vincenti
>>
>> On 3/22/2011 4:57 PM, B Scott Mills wrote:
>>> One suggestion for format...
>>>
>>> http://www.companystsebastian.net/files/boxtourney.htm
>>>
>>> We have run this a couple of times including at the last Squires Cadets
>>> & Arcarius event quite successfully. It's also the format used for years
>>> in An Tir to select their Royal Protector.
>>>
>>> To further entice people to these endeavors if the MiC contacts be at
>>> the same time they contact His Excellency then I will provide the
>>> makings for two dozen combat bolts to go along with his crossbow.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> -EA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/22/2011 4:33 PM, Jean Paul de Sens wrote:
>>>> So, our armoured archers did awesome this year, but Trimaris will feel
>>>> the
>>>> sting, and they will be back next year in greater numbers unless we do
>>>> something about it. And I'm a "put my money where my mouth is" kind of
>>>> guy,
>>>> so here's the deal.
>>>>
>>>> If at an event,
>>>>
>>>> a) the archery Marshal in Charge (MiC) will run a combat archery
>>>> competition
>>>> (rules totally up to the marshal in charge)
>>>> and
>>>> b) let me know at least two weeks before hand
>>>>
>>>> I will provide a single combat crossbow to be given out as a prize.
>>>> The MiC
>>>> can give it to the top scorer, or the most promising newcomer, or
>>>> whatever
>>>> they wish. I leave it up to the MiC.
>>>>
>>>> Comte Jean Paul de Sens
>