[Ansteorra-archery] Children's Archery

Tue Apr 30 15:26:23 PDT 2013

That's a very good approach. I see how some people think it may turn into a day care. That's not the case. If a parent is willing to trust that I can teach a little one how to shoot a dangerous weapon and walk away unharmed, then great! Ill train a new archer and add to our ranks. But that also goes with the trust they have in their child to go find them after they are done shooting. If that's not reasonable then they should be present until their child is done shooting. I'm going to keep that range safe no matter who sets foot near it. Be it veteran or child. So why not take the opportunity to grow our ranks in archers and train someone who has never shot before? Less of a day care and more of a recruiting opportunity. :)

In service
Ld Griffin Fane
Archery Marshal, Eldern Hills

On Apr 30, 2013, at 5:02 PM, Patrick R <tex_yankee2004 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I guess I am lucky I work with some other great marshals and we take turns running the range, giving safety briefings and teaching new people. With that said there are times my bow never gets unstrung (the last two practices) but that is ok since  I like working with the new shooters. As for parents and children at events. I require the parent to bring them and give permission for the children to participate and I am sorry if it upsets the parents that I send the child to bring them for permission before I let them shoot. I make it clear to the parent if the child does not follow my rules I am giving them a call to tell them the child is off the range. So far that has worked perfectly. In order for the marshals not to burn out I try to have several and make sure each one in training knows that the range comes before their personal shooting. After years of being an Army range safety officer I hate the thought of paperwork if someone is hurt so I run a pretty strict range.
> Dante
> 
> From: Joey Gauthier <xferdesk at yahoo.com>
> To: Kira Langsjoen <kolfinnakyrii at yahoo.com>; Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra <ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org> 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 4:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Children's Archery
> 
> I've always looked at it like this. I can safely run a range and keep an eye on a large number of archers. I announce my rules (loudly) before I let anyone shoot. If someone new steps up (child or not) I go over my rules again. Ill even call an impromptu "hold" to see who was paying attention, and who I need to keep more of an eye on. Any marshal can get overwhelmed if there are a large number of children and no other marshals to help "herd the cats". We shouldn't be expected to "babysit" but if the parents want to leave their kids at a range, I can still keep them and my range safe. Just don't expect a marshal to play MOC once the range is closed.
> 
> In service
> Ld Griffin Fane
> Archery Marshal, Eldern Hills
> 
> On Apr 30, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Kira Langsjoen <kolfinnakyrii at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> As long as the parents stay with their children, I think encouraging parents to let their kids come to the archery range during an event is a great idea.  And it works really well too for getting the kids interested.  The only problem that can happen (I'm not saying it always does, or that it is always an inconvenience) is when a parent wants to do something else, the children want to stay at archery, and the archery marshal gets tagged as an unofficial babysitter.  
>>  
>> kolfinna in kyrra Otarsdottir
>> Kira S. Langsjoen
>> 
>> From: "Epperson, Sheryl" <eppersos at oge.com>
>> To: Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra <ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 1:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Children's Archery
>> 
>> Another problem with working with the kids at practice is that at events, even if the parents aren’t interested in archery themselves, they can usually be talked into taking their kids to the archery range.  However, getting them to take them to practice, since it usually isn’t held in conjunction with other practices and activities (chivalric, rapier, scribes, etc.) it takes up another afternoon/evening.
>>  
>> Annabelle
>>  
>> From: ansteorra-archery-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org [mailto:ansteorra-archery-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of Doug Copley
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 12:53 PM
>> To: Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra
>> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Children's Archery
>>  
>> I agree that there are areas and groups that do pretty good. One thing that I have noticed is that we have MANY MANY kids (under 11 or 12) but that we do not have as many that are older than that. I know our son Baldo was pretty good archery and was shooting but once he hit about 14 the SCA was no longer "Cool" so he did not want to do it anymore:-( I think this happens with many of the kids in the SCA. One thing that had been discussed before and they recently setit up for IKAC and I believe we can now make it an option on the RR is to have both children (10, 15, 20 yards with timed at 10 yard) and a youth division that is 15, 20, 30 with a timed round at 15 yards. This MIGHT help or it might now. If it is available for us to use we should consider using it and making it available.
>>  
>> Vincenti
>>  
>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Ld. Cian Rhys Gravenor <metaldog00 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> I may be getting ready to step in it, but I know several baronies that have had a youth program for many years. Admittedly there are rather few participants and I agree we can do  more to recruit the children. On the other hand we have quite a few wee folk participate in archery at the events I frequent. I think local marshals are doing a pretty good job though and I would like to give them props for all they are doing to bring in new blood.
>> 
>> Cian
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Apr 30, 2013, at 9:33 AM, "Frank Schalles" <francisschalles at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > Archers!
>> >
>> > I was reviewing the youth SCORES page at SCA and realized we need to
>> > step up our youth archery program.
>> >
>> > I realize that there are local groups that are naturally teaching
>> > their youths, and we thank you. We have, I think, shied away from
>> > youth SCA activities due to past legal complications. But I believe
>> > that youth Archery is a program that, with the parents participation,
>> > can safely teach Archery in a group setting.
>> >
>> > There are some local groups that have started to hold youth (Children)
>> > Archery Royal Rounds at events, but the lack of youth names on the SCA
>> > SCORES web page suggest that we have a missed opportunity. Our SCA
>> > children are our SCA future, what we mentor and teach is what they
>> > will do when they are in charge.
>> >
>> > I ask each local Archery group set aside a few minutes each practice
>> > to mentor the youth in your group. And when you plan a Royal Round for
>> > Adults, consider doing one for the youth. Better yet, hold a Royal
>> > Rounds specifically for the youth at least once every 3 months. Make
>> > it special, invite other groups to attend, hold a revel, recognize
>> > each youth as a member of the Archery community, and in a few years
>> > from now, we will have many more talented and experienced Archers to
>> > carry on our our beloved SCA Archery programs.
>> >
>> >
>> > Yours In Service,
>> > LD. Francois de Lions,
>> > Keeper of the Royal Rounds, Ansteorra
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