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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>greetings</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>><FONT face="Times New Roman">I don't remember seeing a
Castellan RR scheduled in the site flier, on the website, or announced on the
archery list. If this is my memory failing me, then it is my
mistake.</FONT><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>that would be because in 6 years ive never posted anything
in the event flyer ,as im never ask untill after it is sent in what will be
going on on the range, they just know i'll take care of whatever needs
doing.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>and by tradition weather permitting , there has been a
royal scheduled either friday evening or sunday morning every castellan for the
last 6 years. sometimes no one bothers to show up early or stay late to come
shoot a royal.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>></FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman">Again, I think
this is where you and I differ.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>thats ok, if everyone agreed on everything , we would all
spend our lives bored to tears ; )</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>this is why we are all allowed our own opinion
.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>></FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman"> I shoot to have
fun,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>this is part of the problem , everyone has a differeent
idea of what is fun , for me its to be challenged as a shooter , for some its
shooting barney stuffed animals, for still others its shooting balloons as
they bounce across the ground , some people only want to shoot combat arrows ,
some only want to shoot foam animals , etc.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>personaly i think they should all be shot at in an archers
life as they all have different things to teach the archer, but again thats my
opinion ; )</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>( ever done a monkey shoot ?? theyre a blast , but
the blood runs to your head if you take too long, & i wouldn't recomend
wearing a dress or skirt ; )</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>><FONT face="Times New Roman">And I've never seen
anyone freaking out on a line because they're shooting in a new place.
Most people I've seen are excited to shoot in a new place, not apprehensive
about it; a new shooting location doesn't seem to bother
them.</FONT><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>call it excited, freaked out , nervous tension , what ever
you like , but when an archer starts dropping arrows, fumbling knocking arrows,
his / her score drops 20 or more points , missing shots they can normaly
make with ease , etc , they are under stress and more likely to make a safety
mistake</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>><FONT face="Times New Roman">Did they shoot Royal
Rounds at this event?</FONT><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>no,unless they did it sunday ( i left sat night ) ,
they didn't even get to finish the tourney because rain had delayed the
the archers shooting the preceding rounds enough that they cut the last round in
order to finish before it got dark.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>><FONT face="Times New Roman">And all that is
fine. But it doesn't have anything to do with whether an event hosts a RR
or not.</FONT><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>no , but as h l eadric points out in his post , some
autocrats ( like northkeep ) require the range to be available at any time all
day sat </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>since they see missile activity as being less important
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>unlike the rapier or heavy lists that have definite start
and stop times , ( if you miss armor inspection , or the first round you cant
come in later and say sign me up i want to win )</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>><FONT face="Times New Roman">Again, I didn't say in my
original e-mail that you should stop doing special practices altogether. I
said that you might be surprised at the number of people submitting RR scores if
you actually have RR shoots at an event.</FONT><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>the " special " practices are not extra practices , they
are regularly scheduled practices that we try to attend instead of holding that
one practice we will miss by travelling, and only happen every other month or so
as event schedules permit .a heavy event month usualy won't see any " special "
practices.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>and its not the people submiting the royal round scores ,
its the number of marshals holding royal rounds and submitting scores, if the
marshals dont hold royal rounds weather at practice or events , there will be no
scores submitted.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>a lot of times i'm told " there wasn't any interest " when
i ask if there will be royal rounds at any given event , so perhaps we need to
stir up some interest and let marshals know in advance that x number of archers
are planning to attend such and so event, can we get an away score
??</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>perhaps that way , they will know there is an " interest
"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>again this is just the way i see things at this point, but
im old and human , so i very well could be wrong , so catch me at an event some
time , bring a drink and a chair, and you can try to convince me where i'm
wrong, or just being stubborn ; )</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>i'll enjoy the company , the discussion , and may even
change my mind .</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>be safe, be happy, have fun</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>arthur </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=anovy@suddenlink.net href="mailto:anovy@suddenlink.net">A.N. Novy</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org
href="mailto:ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org">Archery within the Kingdom
of Ansteorra</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 08, 2008 3:01
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Ansteorra-archery] missile
carpool , long , was Re: Third Quarter 2008 Royal Round Keeper Report</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><BR>---- "ld.blackmoon" <<A
href="mailto:ld.blackmoon@cox.net">ld.blackmoon@cox.net</A>> wrote:
<BR>> actually the carpooling to other practices had several reasons ,none
of which was to eliminate the royal rounds at events , if it hadn't been for
the big storm sunday at castellan there would have been a royal round on
sunday morning as usual.<BR>><BR><BR>I don't remember seeing a Castellan RR
scheduled in the site flier, on the website, or announced on the archery
list. If this is my memory failing me, then it is my
mistake.<BR><BR>> i started the carpooling to practices , to improve the
missile skills and promote missile activities ,so that archers can get used to
shooting on a full firing line , in different places , under different
marshals , and not always standing next to the same people, hearing the same
marshal over and over again .this will help them focus on shooting well at
events , and not freaking out because they aren't used to shooting at a new
place , under a different marshal , with a different landscape.<BR><BR>Again,
I think this is where you and I differ. I shoot to have fun, and if my
score happens to go up as a result, then it's a side effect, but it's not the
driving force behind my shooting. Also, all of the reasons you listed
for starting a carpool can be applied to shooting at events: full firing
line, in different places, under different marshals, etc. And I've never
seen anyone freaking out on a line because they're shooting in a new
place. Most people I've seen are excited to shoot in a new place, not
apprehensive about it; a new shooting location doesn't seem to bother
them.<BR><BR>> this is also one of the reasons that a group of us went and
participated in calontirs " kings company of archers " this past
weekend.<BR>> ( a stand alone archery event where they compete from all
over the kingdom , at all levels unranked to grant level )<BR><BR>Did they
shoot Royal Rounds at this event?<BR><BR>> carpooling to different
practices was also to help archers and marshals get to know each other and
help each other , as in the north we're sort of like a big missile family ,
where to get help all you have to do is ask .<BR>> and was to give marshals
an idea about what it would be like to be a m i c for an event , having
that many people show up to shoot.<BR>> northkeep has a small range , so
only 5 or 6 can shoot at a time , so our regional practice may have a lot of
socializing time as well .<BR>> it was also a way to ease travel expenses
so that i could get to more places in order to authorize more people for both
thrown weapons and archery .<BR>> getting an away score is just a nice
bonus added to all the benifits of carpooling to practices.<BR>>
<BR><BR>And all that is fine. But it doesn't have anything to do with
whether an event hosts a RR or not.<BR><BR><BR>> part of the reason i see
royal rounds not being shot as much is the fact that a lot of marshals are
saying they hate circle targets , they only want to do " fun " shoots .both
for practice and for events . <BR><BR>I don't feel that way, but
ok.<BR><BR>> ( which of course means no paper work till the quarterlies ,
or event reports ) ( which thanx to hl eadrics long hours , reporting is very
easy , where else can you turn in ikacs and royal rounds at the same time ??
)<BR>> ansteorra is constant being beaten in the ikac by antir , and a
couple others , in some divisions , by a lot of others . <BR>> this isnt
going to change as long as groups only do " fun " shoots, or people only
practice shooting at events.<BR>> <BR><BR>Again, I didn't say in my
original e-mail that you should stop doing special practices altogether.
I said that you might be surprised at the number of people submitting RR
scores if you actually have RR shoots at an event.<BR><BR>Z<BR><BR><BR>>
----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: A.N. Novy
<BR>> To: Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra
<BR>> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 12:22
PM<BR>> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Third Quarter 2008
Royal Round Keeper Report<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> I may have a
different viewpoint than many on this list, but I think it should be
expressed.<BR>> <BR>> It is not a great concern of mine to
increase my RR score. I am more interested in having fun and using
archery as a relaxing diversion from my mundane life. As a result, I am
not willing to drive 3 or 4 hours roundtrip, even carpooling, to attend a
special practice just so I can get an away score. It takes two very
valuable resources: my money and my time. I think this recent push
to have special practices has replaced holding Royal Round shoots at
events.<BR>> <BR>> When I was in the Outlands, at any event
at which archery was held, there was also an opportunity to shoot a Royal
Round (also, sometimes events that had no other archery scheduled would still
hold a RR). Every effort was made to hold one. This made it much
easier for the casual archer to still participate and track his or her scores,
because if you're at the event anyway, why not shoot a RR and get that away
score? Heck, there was a time when my RR score was made up of only away
scores shot at events.<BR>> <BR>> I believe the Outlands
policy was the correct way to go, which is why since I started running archery
at Mooneschadowe Guardian/Triumphe 3 years ago, I have held a RR. I will
be continuing this tradition this year, and for as long as I run archery for
that event.<BR>> <BR>> People can hold special practices if
they wish. I am not saying they should stop. What I am saying is
that you might be surprised at how many more archers start submitting scores
if you give them the opportunity at events to do so.<BR>>
<BR>> Thanks,<BR>> Zorya
Prazan<BR>> Mooneschadowe Archery Marshal<BR>> <BR>>
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