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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>greetings </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Re: Castellan
shoots: If they didn’t ask you for the event flier what you’re doing, how
are other archers going to know? </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>archery here is still looked upon by many as a second
class activity ( you know , as long as the heavy and rapier people are happy, it
will be a great event ) were still something " those odd people do " , to be
honest not everyone feels this way and advances have been made , and I hope
continue to be made, but like anything in the society , change is slow to
happen.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>></FONT><FONT face=Verdana><FONT size=2>I think that no
one “bothered” to show up early or late because they didn’t know a RR was being
held.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>actually, people usually know at least about Sunday, cause
they normally ask at the competition ; )</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>><FONT face=Verdana color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Re: The range
being open all day: If you are running archery at an event, you are doing
the autocrats a favor. Without you, there would be no archery. It is
a give and take relationship: they need you to run archery, and in return,
yes, you do have the right to say, “no, I’m sorry, but the range will be open
from x to y.” Of course you can work with the rapier and heavy marshals
and try to schedule around each other, but I fully believe you have the right
not to be out in the blazing sun all day. You also have the right to enjoy
the rest of the event. If you want to run archery in the morning and then
do bardic (or whatever) in the afternoon, you should be able to do it.
It’s your event too.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>naw , I'm nobody important , I don't do anything you or
any other marshal doesn't do , we all plan shoots, turn in paperwork, marshal,
help marshal, set up and tear down ranges , many not our own , and roast our
poor donkeys off, so that others can have fun ; ) , then we take a shower , and
try not to fall asleep in court = 0 }</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>to be honest , for the last 2 castellans , I have put my
foot down and said the range will close at about 2 pm,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>( since the scores must be submitted by 4 pm
)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>in order that my marshals ( ok, so I mother hen the
marshals helping on my ranges ; ) and archers may also get to participate in
other castellan</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>activities.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>></FONT><FONT face=Verdana size=2>What it’s probably
going to take is communication between the archery MIC for an event and the
autocrats. And of course, make sure the archery schedule is known via the
event website, site flier, e-mail announcements, etc. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>as I told you previously , upon seeing your populace come
out in mass to help tear down your archery and thrown weapons ranges , it was
the first time ever I have seen anything like it and I am still awed and amazed
at the teamwork displayed by your entire group , if only all groups were like
yours and worked as a team, there's no limit to how much could get done ,
unfortunately , in many places there is a great lack of communication , in both
directions .</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>like I said earlier , change is happening, but
slowly , in some places ,very slowly ...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>></FONT><FONT face=Verdana size=2>When I read Baron
Donnchadh’s e-mail about there being RRs at Protectorate, I went,
“oooooooooooooooooooooo, I just made my decision to attend Protectorate.”
Unless something unexpected happens, I’ll be there.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>here I agree with you completely , the " secret shoots "
have got to stop !!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial> with rising gas prices , and rising costs in general
, we need to be posting what shoots will be at what events, well in advance so
people can save for those events with the type shoots they enjoy shooting , this
would also have the added benefit of letting others see what was going on the
ranges, and attracting more people to come participate and watch the exciting
shoots , ( right now its more exciting to watch people beat on other
people , than it is to watch most archery tourneys , ) , but when the
autocrats are only willing to put " there will be archery " in the event info,
after the half page of what style heavy combat is to take place , its hard to
get excited : /</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>></FONT><FONT face=Verdana size=2>And encourage people
to think of archery as not just “what the people who don’t fight heavy or rapier
do.” </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>yep, that's every missile persons job , both in word and
deed !! on the range and off .</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>></FONT><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Archery takes
remarkable skill, patience, and endurance. Just because we don’t beat or
poke each other senseless doesn’t mean we’re any less
important. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>your preaching to the choir , believe me I fully agree ;
)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>></FONT><FONT face=Verdana size=2>I’m sorry if that has
been your experience. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I don't worry so much about me ,I've never been a people
pleaser , or even remotely politically correct , so , I'm used to
not feeling welcome in some places , or around some people. but I get
a bit feisty when the attitude raises its ugly head about the missile activities
; )</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I'm told quite often that all activities are equal ,and
there are groups where this ideal can be observed , but unfortunately
the proof is in the deed , and not in the word , and the treatment of some
activities is in all ways preferential to the treatment received by the
other activities , at least in some groups .</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>></FONT><FONT face=Verdana><FONT size=2>If you’re
running an activity at an event, be it archery, feast, A&S, or heavy
fighting: You. Are. Important.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>the hard part is to get people to realize we are all "
important " from those who give freely of their time , experience and knowledge
, to those who only come to one event a year, from those already recognized as
peers , to the newbie at their first event , weather its your first event , or
your 500th event, you are contributing to the society financially, and more
importantly , socially , the interaction of all these people are what makes the
sca both a political hot bed , and thriving community , a not so perfect "
family " in a not so perfect world.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>yet I still remember the words that got me interested in
the sca 26 + years ago...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>friend = " you've got to come see these people , they're a
blast .</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>me = why , what do they do ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>friend = they recreate the middle ages the way it should
have been , with damsels in distress, knights in shining armor,flushing toilets
, and microwave ovens !!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>that was enough for me to look them up when I got
back to Oklahoma , and I've been a member as often as I could afford it
ever since ..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I have sca friends all over this kingdom, and in calontir,
and if they still play , even in trimaris </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>( yes my being in the sca is partly the trimarans fault ;
)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>><FONT face=Verdana color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">My soapbox.
I’m getting off of it now.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>oh no , you didn't break it did you ?? with me around your
liable to need it later ; )</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>><FONT face=Verdana color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Love you
guys,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>s'ok sis , we love you too = )</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>be safe, be happy, have fun</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>arthur </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=anovy@suddenlink.net href="mailto:anovy@suddenlink.net">A.N. Novy</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org
href="mailto:ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org">'Archery within the
Kingdom of Ansteorra'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 08, 2008 8:26
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Ansteorra-archery] missile
carpool , long ,was Re: Third Quarter 2008 Royal Round Keeper Report</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=Section1>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Re:
Castellan shoots: If they didn’t ask you for the event flier what
you’re doing, how are other archers going to know? Why didn’t you tell
them what you were planning the next 5 years? I think that no one
“bothered” to show up early or late because they didn’t know a RR was being
held.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Re: Freaking
out: Sorry, but I just haven’t seen it…..The only time I see people
fumbling is when they are new or when the shoot is
timed.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Re: The
range being open all day: If you are running archery at an event, you
are doing the autocrats a favor. Without you, there would be no
archery. It is a give and take relationship: they need you to run
archery, and in return, yes, you do have the right to say, “no, I’m sorry, but
the range will be open from x to y.” Of course you can work with the
rapier and heavy marshals and try to schedule around each other, but I fully
believe you have the right not to be out in the blazing sun all day. You
also have the right to enjoy the rest of the event. If you want to run
archery in the morning and then do bardic (or whatever) in the afternoon, you
should be able to do it. It’s your event
too.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Re: Interest
in RR at events: Perhaps this is a “If you hold it, they will come” type
of thing. I’ve always had at least a dozen archers shooting the RR at
Guardian/Triumphe. Even if I only had 2 archers shooting, I would still
hold the RR. What it’s probably going to take is communication between
the archery MIC for an event and the autocrats. And of course, make sure
the archery schedule is known via the event website, site flier, e-mail
announcements, etc. When I read Baron Donnchadh’s e-mail about there
being RRs at Protectorate, I went, “oooooooooooooooooooooo, I just made my
decision to attend Protectorate.” Unless something unexpected happens,
I’ll be there. And encourage people to think of archery as not just
“what the people who don’t fight heavy or rapier do.” Archery takes
remarkable skill, patience, and endurance. Just because we don’t beat or
poke each other senseless doesn’t mean we’re any less important. I’m
sorry if that has been your experience. If you’re running an activity at
an event, be it archery, feast, A&S, or heavy fighting: You.
Are. Important.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">My soapbox.
I’m getting off of it now.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Love you
guys,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Z<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
ansteorra-archery-bounces@lists.ansteorra.org
[mailto:ansteorra-archery-bounces@lists.ansteorra.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>ld.blackmoon<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, September 08, 2008 7:05
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Archery within the
Kingdom of Ansteorra<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>
Re: [Ansteorra-archery] missile carpool , long ,was Re: Third Quarter 2008
Royal Round Keeper Report</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">greetings</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">></SPAN></FONT>I don't remember
seeing a Castellan RR scheduled in the site flier, on the website, or
announced on the archery list. If this is my memory failing me, then it
is my mistake.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">that would be because in 6 years
ive never posted anything in the event flyer ,as im never ask untill after it
is sent in what will be going on on the range, they just know i'll take care
of whatever needs doing.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">and by tradition weather
permitting , there has been a royal scheduled either friday evening or sunday
morning every castellan for the last 6 years. sometimes no one bothers to show
up early or stay late to come shoot a royal.<FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">></SPAN></FONT>Again, I think
this is where you and I differ.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">thats ok, if everyone agreed on
everything , we would all spend our lives bored to tears ;
)</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">this is why we are all allowed our
own opinion .</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">></SPAN></FONT> I shoot to have
fun,<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">this is part of the problem ,
everyone has a differeent idea of what is fun , for me its to be challenged as
a shooter , for some its shooting barney stuffed animals, for still
others its shooting balloons as they bounce across the ground , some people
only want to shoot combat arrows , some only want to shoot foam animals ,
etc.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">personaly i think they should all
be shot at in an archers life as they all have different things to teach the
archer, but again thats my opinion ; )</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">( ever done a monkey shoot
?? theyre a blast , but the blood runs to your head if you take too
long, & i wouldn't recomend wearing a dress or skirt ;
)</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">></SPAN></FONT>And I've never
seen anyone freaking out on a line because they're shooting in a new
place. Most people I've seen are excited to shoot in a new place, not
apprehensive about it; a new shooting location doesn't seem to bother
them.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">call it excited, freaked out ,
nervous tension , what ever you like , but when an archer starts dropping
arrows, fumbling knocking arrows, his / her score drops 20 or more points ,
missing shots they can normaly make with ease , etc , they are under
stress and more likely to make a safety
mistake</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">></SPAN></FONT>Did they shoot
Royal Rounds at this event?<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">no,unless they did it sunday ( i
left sat night ) , they didn't even get to finish the tourney because
rain had delayed the the archers shooting the preceding rounds enough that
they cut the last round in order to finish before it got
dark.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">></SPAN></FONT>And all that is
fine. But it doesn't have anything to do with whether an event hosts a
RR or not.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">no , but as h l eadric points out
in his post , some autocrats ( like northkeep ) require the range to be
available at any time all day sat </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">since they see missile activity as
being less important </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">unlike the rapier or heavy lists
that have definite start and stop times , ( if you miss armor inspection , or
the first round you cant come in later and say sign me up i want to win
)</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">></SPAN></FONT>Again, I didn't
say in my original e-mail that you should stop doing special practices
altogether. I said that you might be surprised at the number of people
submitting RR scores if you actually have RR shoots at an
event.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">the " special " practices are not
extra practices , they are regularly scheduled practices that we try to attend
instead of holding that one practice we will miss by travelling, and only
happen every other month or so as event schedules permit .a heavy event month
usualy won't see any " special " practices.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">and its not the people submiting
the royal round scores , its the number of marshals holding royal rounds and
submitting scores, if the marshals dont hold royal rounds weather at practice
or events , there will be no scores
submitted.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">a lot of times i'm told " there
wasn't any interest " when i ask if there will be royal rounds at any given
event , so perhaps we need to stir up some interest and let marshals know in
advance that x number of archers are planning to attend such and so event, can
we get an away score ??</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">perhaps that way , they will know
there is an " interest "</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">again this is just the way i see
things at this point, but im old and human , so i very well could be wrong ,
so catch me at an event some time , bring a drink and a chair, and you can try
to convince me where i'm wrong, or just being stubborn ;
)</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">i'll enjoy the company , the
discussion , and may even change my mind
.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">be safe, be happy, have
fun</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">arthur
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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title=anovy@suddenlink.net href="mailto:anovy@suddenlink.net">A.N. Novy</A>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org
href="mailto:ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org">Archery within the
Kingdom of Ansteorra</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Monday,
September 08, 2008 3:01 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re:
[Ansteorra-archery] missile carpool , long , was Re: Third Quarter 2008
Royal Round Keeper Report<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR>---- "ld.blackmoon" <<A
href="mailto:ld.blackmoon@cox.net">ld.blackmoon@cox.net</A>> wrote:
<BR>> actually the carpooling to other practices had several reasons
,none of which was to eliminate the royal rounds at events , if it hadn't
been for the big storm sunday at castellan there would have been a royal
round on sunday morning as usual.<BR>><BR><BR>I don't remember seeing a
Castellan RR scheduled in the site flier, on the website, or announced on
the archery list. If this is my memory failing me, then it is my
mistake.<BR><BR>> i started the carpooling to practices , to improve the
missile skills and promote missile activities ,so that archers can get used
to shooting on a full firing line , in different places , under different
marshals , and not always standing next to the same people, hearing the same
marshal over and over again .this will help them focus on shooting well at
events , and not freaking out because they aren't used to shooting at a new
place , under a different marshal , with a different
landscape.<BR><BR>Again, I think this is where you and I differ. I
shoot to have fun, and if my score happens to go up as a result, then it's a
side effect, but it's not the driving force behind my shooting. Also,
all of the reasons you listed for starting a carpool can be applied to
shooting at events: full firing line, in different places, under
different marshals, etc. And I've never seen anyone freaking out on a
line because they're shooting in a new place. Most people I've seen
are excited to shoot in a new place, not apprehensive about it; a new
shooting location doesn't seem to bother them.<BR><BR>> this is also one
of the reasons that a group of us went and participated in calontirs " kings
company of archers " this past weekend.<BR>> ( a stand alone
archery event where they compete from all over the kingdom , at all levels
unranked to grant level )<BR><BR>Did they shoot Royal Rounds at this
event?<BR><BR>> carpooling to different practices was also to help
archers and marshals get to know each other and help each other , as in the
north we're sort of like a big missile family , where to get help all you
have to do is ask .<BR>> and was to give marshals an idea about
what it would be like to be a m i c for an event , having that many people
show up to shoot.<BR>> northkeep has a small range , so only 5 or 6 can
shoot at a time , so our regional practice may have a lot of socializing
time as well .<BR>> it was also a way to ease travel expenses so that i
could get to more places in order to authorize more people for both thrown
weapons and archery .<BR>> getting an away score is just a nice bonus
added to all the benifits of carpooling to practices.<BR>> <BR><BR>And
all that is fine. But it doesn't have anything to do with whether an
event hosts a RR or not.<BR><BR><BR>> part of the reason i see royal
rounds not being shot as much is the fact that a lot of marshals are saying
they hate circle targets , they only want to do " fun " shoots .both for
practice and for events . <BR><BR>I don't feel that way, but ok.<BR><BR>>
( which of course means no paper work till the quarterlies , or event
reports ) ( which thanx to hl eadrics long hours , reporting is very easy ,
where else can you turn in ikacs and royal rounds at the same time ??
)<BR>> ansteorra is constant being beaten in the ikac by antir , and a
couple others , in some divisions , by a lot of others . <BR>> this isnt
going to change as long as groups only do " fun " shoots, or people
only practice shooting at events.<BR>> <BR><BR>Again, I didn't say in my
original e-mail that you should stop doing special practices
altogether. I said that you might be surprised at the number of people
submitting RR scores if you actually have RR shoots at an
event.<BR><BR>Z<BR><BR><BR>> ----- Original Message -----
<BR>> From: A.N. Novy <BR>> To: Archery within
the <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Kingdom</st1:PlaceType> of
<st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Ansteorra</st1:PlaceName></st1:place>
<BR>> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 12:22
PM<BR>> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Third Quarter 2008
Royal Round Keeper Report<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> I may have a
different viewpoint than many on this list, but I think it should be
expressed.<BR>> <BR>> It is not a great concern of mine to
increase my RR score. I am more interested in having fun and using
archery as a relaxing diversion from my mundane life. As a result, I
am not willing to drive 3 or 4 hours roundtrip, even carpooling, to attend a
special practice just so I can get an away score. It takes two very
valuable resources: my money and my time. I think this recent
push to have special practices has replaced holding Royal Round shoots at
events.<BR>> <BR>> When I was in the Outlands, at any
event at which archery was held, there was also an opportunity to shoot a
Royal Round (also, sometimes events that had no other archery scheduled
would still hold a RR). Every effort was made to hold one. This
made it much easier for the casual archer to still participate and track his
or her scores, because if you're at the event anyway, why not shoot a RR and
get that away score? Heck, there was a time when my RR score was made
up of only away scores shot at events.<BR>> <BR>> I
believe the Outlands policy was the correct way to go, which is why since I
started running archery at Mooneschadowe Guardian/Triumphe 3 years ago, I
have held a RR. I will be continuing this tradition this year, and for
as long as I run archery for that event.<BR>> <BR>> People
can hold special practices if they wish. I am not saying they should
stop. What I am saying is that you might be surprised at how many more
archers start submitting scores if you give them the opportunity at events
to do so.<BR>> <BR>> Thanks,<BR>> Zorya
Prazan<BR>> Mooneschadowe Archery Marshal<BR>> <BR>>
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