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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The stick fighters get to resurrect. Though the archers can,
their arrows (other than the siloflex ones) cannot be gleaned. So as you get to
the end of the ravine battle fewer and fewer archers have anything to throw at
the enemy. Many convert to pure stick fighting and keep in the battle.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>In service,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Caelin on Andrede<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> ansteorra-archery-bounces@lists.ansteorra.org
[mailto:ansteorra-archery-bounces@lists.ansteorra.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 16, 2008 18:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Newest Attack on CA?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Ah, but we all know the standard French fighting
position. Feet spread shoulder width apart, Hands and arms raised above
their heads. ;o)<br>
<br>
Because we run out of ammo by then silly. <br>
<br>
Iaen<br>
<br>
Paul Thorne wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Hey, let's not bring the French
bashing into this! The French were cool, for approx. 0.5 seconds before
dropping their stuff and running...but that's gotta count for something right?<br>
<br>
It's amazing what will get wrapped up in the discussions over
"safety" when you break down most of the conversations it really
comes down to gameplay and how they feel CA is overwhelming on the
battlefield. Of course if CA was so domineering why is it that at the end
of the ravine battle that it isn't just down to nothing but Archers at the end?<br>
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-JP (disgruntled Frenchman)<br>
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Viva la...meh...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote>On 12/16/08, <b>Susan McMahill</b> <<a
href="mailto:sueorintx@hotmail.com">sueorintx@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</span>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>One thing that I did find
rather interesting is that there are a number of folks who would like to
restrict rate of fire, especially from crossbows. This includes outlawing
'belly-cocking." As most of the combat crossbowmen and women I know do
some sort of what I would call 'belly-cocking,' This caught my attention. Apparently
certain factions believe that this causes a crossbowman to be able to reload
and fire at an 'unacceptable' rate of fire. It has been brought up, however,
that the rate of fire they have been discussing is historically accurate. There
hasn't been a lot more said about that. These same folks would like to have a
restriction in amounts of ammo available to archers and crossbows. Boy,
wouldn't Henry V have loved someone to restrict the number of arrows that his
archers were able to shoot at Agincourt? Jeeze! Sounds like a bunch of
disgruntled Frenchmen to me!<br>
<br>
Anyway, this onslaught really caught me by surprise as I had just joined the
SCA Combat Archery list the day all this started. I've been getting
about 6 digests a day with up to 25 messages per digest. A little overwhelming,
to say the least. I am hoping it slows down a bit.<br>
<br>
Sir Kenneth, I was actually thinking of emailing you about all this 'stuff'. We
have several knights in Ansteorra that are CA friendly so I don't think that
the issue is that great here. As Iaen said, most of this discontent is from the
easternmost reaches of the Knowne World. Hopefully as more of them become aware
of the new rules for CA, they can stop running around screeching about the sky
falling. I guess they live too close to Wall Street. <b>Error! Filename not
specified.</b><br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Lyneya<br>
<br>
<br>
<span style='font-family:"Lucida Handwriting"'>Well-behaved women Seldom
make history - </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Handwriting"'>Laurel
Thatcher Ulrich</span><br>
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Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:06:07 -0600<br>
From: <a href="mailto:iaenmor@swbell.net" target="_blank">iaenmor@swbell.net</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org" target="_blank">ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Newest Attack on CA? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<span class=e>Sir Kenneth, as it stands right now I wouldn't worry too much
about it. Quite a bit of gum flapping by some. Quite a bit of
insult flying early on and somewhat still. Some really good talks about
some things. Those are mostly about crowd safety and netting on the
sidelines. Sir Omarad came on the list and told all we can discuss away
but any changes would have to go through the Kingdom marshalletes and up the
chain of command. He made it pretty clear any CA changes asked for would
have to go through the SCAM before anything got to him.</span><br>
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<span class=e>Sir Lyonel has actually been fairly supportive of the CA
situation. Surprised the hell out of me about that. He is mainly
wondering why we have such ridiculous rules for the archers. You might
want to pop him an email and get his stance for yourself. I think as far
as I can tell he is the only knight from Ansteorra that has spoken up in the
discussion. There have been several others (mostly from the western
kingdoms) who have spoken up for CA also. Most of the dissenters seem to
be from the eastern seaboard kingdoms. </span><br>
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<span class=e>That is my view on what has been happening so far. Lots of
wind and not much else.</span><br>
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<span class=e>Iaen Mor</span><br>
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<span class=e>Ken Theriot wrote: </span><span class=e><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>What
information does anyone here have on this? Sir Lyonel just posted this to
the Chiv list.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>A number of knights in various kingdoms are pressing, lately, to ban
fibreglass shaft ammunition and allow only 100# siloflex bolts and arrows on
the battlefield. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>I
confess that I don't frequent the SCA-wide lists, so I hadn't heard of this
until now. Does this have a chance? What is driving this?
Lyonel put a pool out to our list to get the opinion of our chivalry on it
asking just one question…"do you agree with this?" I
don't expect many of the Ansteorran chivalry to support such an idiotic
(sorry…to strong a word?) proposal. I just wanted to find out what
anyone else might know about it.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Thanks.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Kenneth</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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