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size=2>Its ok everyone, we have found something else that is similar but not
exactly like the military ones.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2>So thanks everyone</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<B>On Behalf Of </B>Crandall<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 06, 2009 12:37
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[Ansteorra-archery] Greetings....I need some help from someonein the
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<TD vAlign=top>Were they hand made, and a true saltire rather than the
obtuse angle of the official badge, then I think you would not have a
problem. <BR>The previous mentioned registered badge would be silver, so
gold, or other colors could be used. <BR><BR>Crandall, Olde Phart
<BR><BR>"In all life one should comfort the afflicted, but verily, also,
one should afflict the comfortable, and especially when they are
comfortably, contentedly, even happily wrong." -John Kenneth
Galbraith<BR><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 2/6/09, Donnchadh Beag mac Griogair
<I><donnchadh@cornelius.norman.ok.us></I></B> wrote:<BR>
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<donnchadh@cornelius.norman.ok.us><BR>Subject: Re:
[Ansteorra-archery] Greetings....I need some help from someone in the
Military<BR>To: "Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra"
<ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org><BR>Date: Friday, February
6, 2009, 11:27 AM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=yiv1731228796>Out of curiosity, does that opinion extend to any
crossed arrow emblem (say one hand-cast by an artisan), or just the ones
sold by the US Army? Could you tell the difference?<BR><BR>Just to
make sure there is no confusion. I in no way support the idea of
representing one's self with honors you haven't earned or in any way
disrespecting the honorable service of those in uniform. I just
believe that crossed arrows are generic enough to mean different things
in different settings.<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>Donnchadh<BR><BR>Mike Wyvill
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As the father of an active duty Infantry sergeant, I can tell you his
opinion of wearing that.<BR> <BR>But this is a family
list.<BR> <BR>Engenulf<BR><BR><BR>
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Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 19:46:02 -0700<BR>From: <A
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href="mailto:donnchadh@cornelius.norman.ok.us" target=_blank
rel=nofollow>donnchadh@cornelius.norman.ok.us</A><BR>To: <A
class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org" target=_blank
rel=nofollow>ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org</A><BR>Subject: Re:
[Ansteorra-archery] Greetings....I need some help from someone in the
Military<BR><BR>I believe that the emblem Lance was talking about is
just two arrows in saltier. Not a specific badge or emblem that
is specific to Special Forces. Yes they are used by the Special
Forces, but they have been in use for centuries before that for other
purposes as well. He was just trying to find a ready source of
the emblem.<BR><BR>Now if he wanted wear the emblem on an Army
uniform, that would be completely different. Then again, it
wouldn't matter if you wore a white or red belt outside of an SCA
setting either. Context is important.<BR><BR>To sum up, I don't
see any disrespect using something as generic as two crossed arrows
outside of a US Military setting.<BR><BR>Baron
Donnchadh<BR><BR><BR>Eadric Anstapa wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE>I am with Karl. I think is is somewhat
disrespectful to wear a badge worn by special forces officers, and
intended for special forces officers, unless you have been a special
forces officer.<BR><BR>To me its kinda like if you went around
wearing a White Bracer on your arm and you weren't a member of the
Order. I would be annoyed at someone who did that.<BR><BR>Or
better yet, if you decided to wear a Red Bracer, a Red Belt, and a
Red Scarf. Those items aren't "official" or protected by
our kingdom law. We simply customarily use them to mean
something that is very special to those that wear them. We
honor those people who very carefully consider who they will give
those customary insignia to by keeping to those customs and
traditions and allowing them to remain special. Why not honor
those who have served our country in the special forces
similarly?<BR><BR>Regards,<BR><BR>-EA<BR><BR>Chuck Kaun wrote:
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I am not sure how picky they are, but when I was active, if you
wanted some of the special stuff, you had to prove you deserved
it. Unless you know any officers in the special forces, most
Joe's wont be able to buy it in a PX.
<BR> <BR>And to tell the truth, why not find an artist who
can make stuff like that? Its kinda disrespectful to have
those things if you havent earned them.<BR> <BR>Karl
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<BR>From: <A class=EC_moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:huntsmanlance@cox.net" target=_blank
rel=nofollow>huntsmanlance@cox.net</A><BR>To: <A
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rel=nofollow>ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org</A><BR>Date:
Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:06:56 -0600<BR>Subject: [Ansteorra-archery]
Greetings....I need some help from someone in the
Military<BR><BR><BR><B><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=#008000>Hi all, we are looking for the brass crossed arrows
pin that is used by the Army Special Forces Officer. Here is a
link to the site I found that has the cheapest price and quantity
…….. </FONT></B><A
href="http://www.priorservice.com/arspfoofba.html" target=_blank
rel=nofollow><B><U><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=#0000ff>http://www.priorservice.com/arspfoofba.html</FONT></U></B></A><BR><B><FONT
face="Times New Roman" color=#008000>The price at $5.00 a pin isnt
bad but I thought maybe one of our members who Serve could check
their local base and see if they could be bought at a lower
price.</FONT></B><BR><B><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=#008000>If someone finds anything please e-mail me at <A
class=EC_moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:huntsmanlance@cox.net" target=_blank
rel=nofollow>huntsmanlance@cox.net</A></FONT></B> <BR><B><FONT
face="Times New Roman" color=#008000>Thanks!</FONT></B>
<BR><B><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#008000>Lance</FONT></B>
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