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To make that work in football, then all involved must come together to
practice and Not just one or two times. Which is the normal given the
size of this Kingdom.<br>
So, still not valid.<br>
<br>
Everyone better understand the basic principle in teaching - "KISS" -
otherwise it gets to complicated and history is just full of..."I
thought we were going to do A, D, E and H and not A, B, C, and J. "<br>
<br>
<br>
Michael Kettering<br>
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Richard Threlkeld wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Sort of like in football, your commands only need to be understood by your
archers and maybe the commanders of the other groups on your side. So "12,
54, hike" might mean everyone move to the right and shoot to the left. They
know *something* is happening and can see a gathering of archers, but they
don't know what they are doing or what the "do it now" command will be.
In service,
Caelin on Andrede
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Heilsa,
To make this work, then you or someone will be yelling out commands -
which everyone will be able to heard and understand, on both sides!
This has always been one of the major flaws in archers gathering in a
mass - so commands are yelled out and lo and behold - there is "No
Surprise."
Been there and done that - and burned the both the T-Shirt and the
photos! Not worth the effort!
Michael Kettering
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<pre wrap="">Caladin Here, That reminds me... 2 things... I wanted to talk to Y'all
about.
1. From what I've gathered by listening, one of His Majesties goals
seems to be to minimize the "Drama and whining" at the war, and so the
15 piece of armor rule
may have been in the nature of an understandably arbitrary attempt to
quiet those who complained and argued for no archery in the ravine
battle, while still letting our archers get out
on the field of the ravine battle and kick butt. An unpleasant
compromise if you will, who's goal was not realism, or even fairness,
but to lessen the drama.
Plus you've I hope you'll agree, all those spear lines with no shields
in front that keep happening in the ravine battle are kind of like
Christmas morning to good archers :).
I know I spent a lot of the battle last year wishing I'd brought my
crossbow :)
2. As General, I've been asked by several archers to think about
interesting and different uses for archery, than the standard 30 foot
spear/ solo sniper tactics that we've used for so long.
I've been cogitating about asking the archers to mass up to try
something interesting in one specific battle of one of the
scenarios... It's not massed indirect fire,
more like a big mass of skirmishers with rifles in naploeonic warfare,
at least that's how I think it'd work in the idea that I have rattling
about in my gourd.
I know several of you have mentioned how much you'd like to try massed
fire... and while this is not that, it's a step in that direction...So
my real question is,
Would you be interested in the possibility of being pulled together in
one place for massed sniper work, once, in one specific battle, if the
idea gets approved and agreed to by all involved, etc etc?
I don't want to go into too much detail, but I'd want to gather most
or all the archers in a specific place at a specific time early in the
battle, and if the enemy does what I hope (a notoriously risky gamble,
I admit) there would be a very brief window of utter devastation. Then
you'd' all be free to run off and rejoin your units, move, or whatever
you wanted to do... The downside of the Gamble being that if they
don't do what I hope, you'll have wasted 5-10 min of your time ( and
not being available for doing any counter archer fire), and then have
to move to a new location or re-join yout units with nothing to show
for it. You would not be being left out exposed to be destroyed, in
case you were worried about that..
This idea is not fully formed, nor has it been discussed with anyone
except y'all, but I wanted to see if you thought it might be fun to
take the gamble before I bothered talking to anyone else about it.
If Y'all saw it as the moral equivalent of taking all the knights and
making a super unit, theirby depriving all the units of their best
assets, then I'd drop the idea entirely.
What do Y'all think? Does that sound like fun?
Caladin-
Generalisimo.
Mike Wyvill wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Sir Guy, Honorable Lords and gentles all,
I absolutely understand that our knights by and large support CA. And
all Ansteorran archers should as well. Sir Lyonel has posted to the
SCA Missile Combat list supporting us, I know personally of Duke
Aaron and Duke Ulsted and their support. Sir Alexis has crossbowmen
in his Blue Company so of course not all knights in or out of this
Kingdom oppose archery. And I did not post to the list to stir up
trouble. I just think we need to get an idea of our numbers so that
we can come up with effective tactics for the ravine.
The Midrealm has declared for Trimaris. I believe that Calontir will
as well. So that means two units carrying scutums that will need
breaking. I believe that we, the archers, are best suited for that.
Baron Michel is our commander this year and I would like to give him
the tools to state what the archers can do for Ansteorra in the
ravine when asked.
EdV
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