<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><DIV>Thanks Will, it's OK I'm somewhat sensitive and get extremely </DIV>
<DIV>frustrated when I see or hear any "bows only" talk. The way I </DIV>
<DIV>see it archers are archers and we don't have enough to be </DIV>
<DIV>excluding anybody. Most likely it's because I may use crossbow </DIV>
<DIV>but I'm still a bowman at heart, I've been shooting bows since I </DIV>
<DIV>was six years old. My first introduction to manufacturing and </DIV>
<DIV>one of my fondest childhood memories was when my father </DIV>
<DIV>arranged a tour of the Ben Person factory in Pine Bluff Arkansas </DIV>
<DIV>when I was ten. Fifty years later age has robbed me of that skill, </DIV>
<DIV>I still love the bow, I just can't use it anymore. Arthritis may have </DIV>
<DIV>taken it's toil on me, but I still want to play! </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I've always been fascinated with most things that hurl objects down </DIV>
<DIV>range so naturally crossbows fit right into that as well, and what's </DIV>
<DIV>more medieval than the crossbow? The good thing for me is I can </DIV>
<DIV>use one without the pain or injury the bow can cause me. Best </DIV>
<DIV>part is it keeps me in the game, allows me to continue to play and </DIV>
<DIV>even compete. So yeah "bows only" talk tends to tick me off a bit! </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>To be honest I've never noticed much difference between my skill </DIV>
<DIV>with bow or crossbow score wise. My high end scores with each </DIV>
<DIV>are just about equal. They are different, crossbow is quicker to </DIV>
<DIV>learn than bow, but at the upper skill levels they tend to balance </DIV>
<DIV>out. However it still requires a skilled hand to put the missile </DIV>
<DIV>where you want it down range with either weapon. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Until the day I wake up and find I can't pull a crossbow anymore </DIV>
<DIV>it's keeping me involved, playing and competing and I don't want </DIV>
<DIV>miss out on anything I don't have to! </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>You are correct about going to the source for clarification and I </DIV>
<DIV>guarantee we are going to do that. We'll post again as soon as </DIV>
<DIV>we hear back weal or woe. </DIV>
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<DIV>I'm not refusing to adapt, geez we've been doing that constantly </DIV>
<DIV>almost twelve years now at great expense I might add, but being </DIV>
<DIV>"ruled to death" in the ravine at GW has been just about the last </DIV>
<DIV>straw for me. It's not surprising we have lost so many CA's </DIV>
<DIV>considering the difficulties & expenses they have had to endure </DIV>
<DIV>over the years and I don't expect it to get any better. I'm not sure </DIV>
<DIV>we'll ever be able to rebuild those numbers, but we're still trying! </DIV>
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<DIV>Ironwyrm</DIV>
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<DIV> <BR><BR>--- On <B>Wed, 1/20/10, William <SPAN><SPAN><SPAN>Arwemakere</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> <I><arwemakere@gmail.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: William Arwemakere <arwemakere@gmail.com><BR>Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Fw: [SCA-Archery] Gulf Wars Grand Exhibition Tournament and GA Fun Shoots<BR>To: "Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra" <ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org><BR>Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 12:44 AM<BR><BR>
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<DIV>Ironwyrm,</DIV>
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<DIV>Relax. Breathe.</DIV>
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<DIV>Take it in the way most people are, it means one handbow, one crossbow, or two handbows. Can't be two crossbows.</DIV>
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<DIV>OR, instead of jumping to conclusions, email Egil and ask him for a clarifications. The best ideas are often misunderstood, and if people don't _ask_ they'll only be operating with limited information.</DIV>
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<DIV>Regarding the ravine, I too was disappointed with the "limited" arrow rule. Hmm, it meant more trips back to res. Oh well. I did it. I still killed LOTS of people. I found I shot a bit slower, and still had lots of fun. I think the rule said 15 arrows. I did not count exact quantities in my quiver per reload, I just used some discretion on loading. These are the days we should all be promoting CA, not complaining (even when your heart knows better). My local branch went from 35+ CA'ers to 3, because all the "old time" people refused to adapt. I now have the task of rebuilding the numbers.</DIV>
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<DIV>William Baconeater<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:34 PM, William Black Dragon <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="http://us.mc800.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ironwyrm@sbcglobal.net" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:ironwyrm@sbcglobal.net">ironwyrm@sbcglobal.net</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV>I read it as I could use my modern TD recurve (if I could still pull it) </DIV>
<DIV>but not my period crossbow!?! That's some serious bow bias if </DIV>
<DIV>correct and I can't believe I'm hearing this crossbow exclusion </DIV>
<DIV>crap our from fellow archers, again! That really sucks if that's </DIV>
<DIV>what they are planing to do. It's difficult enough to get people to </DIV>
<DIV>attend events these days without telling them can't participate </DIV>
<DIV>when they do come! </DIV>
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<DIV>The you get to use "X" amount of arrows or bolts then you die </DIV>
<DIV>(return to resurrection point) for combat archers has already </DIV>
<DIV>soured the ravine battle for me. It used to be one of my favorite </DIV>
<DIV>activities during Gulf War, but I'll likely pass on it and go fight </DIV>
<DIV>spear in the bridge battles instead now. </DIV>
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<DIV>I hate to sound discouraging but SCA archery is really starting </DIV>
<DIV>to lose it's appeal the less fun it gets!<BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Ironwyrm</DIV>
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<DIV><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 1/19/10, Marlin and Amanda Stout <I><<A href="http://us.mc800.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ldcharles@sbcglobal.net" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:ldcharles@sbcglobal.net">ldcharles@sbcglobal.net</A>></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV class=im>To: "Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra" <<A href="http://us.mc800.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org">ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org</A>><BR></DIV>Date: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 11:24 PM
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<DIV>It looks to me like you could have a crossbowman, but he'd have to be paired with a longbowman/etc. So you could have a crossbowman on a team, but not a team with 2 crossbows.<BR><BR>Charles, <BR>BG<BR><BR>Richard Threlkeld wrote:
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