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<DIV>greetings </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>all the attending ladies of baroness or higher ranking are
invited to come shoot at various targets, for score. at this time I believe that
the winner gets a prize basket and word fame ; ) ( but I could be wrong, since
I'm trying to get more " prize shoots " going. )</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>realistically I would like to get to a point where there
is no arrow chasing in a title shoot, if you cant hit the target every time or
at least be close, you shouldn't be competing in a championship title tourney,
but also if your shooting in the title shoots, you shouldn't be shooting in the
general populace prize shoots either.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>but currently I see that there seems to be many title
shoots, a few novice or children's shoots, but nothing for those in the middle,
which again will take time to get people motivated.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I really wish there was a central data base people could
add different shoots to so that anyone could try them , no matter what kingdom
they were in, or what part of the kingdom.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>again just my opinions ; )</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun .<BR>Arthur</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<A title=tex_yankee2004@yahoo.com
href="mailto:tex_yankee2004@yahoo.com">Patrick R</A> </DIV>
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title=ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org
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of Ansteorra</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 13, 2012 9:20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Royal
Huntsman Duties</DIV>
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<DIV>Always looking for fun things to do so can you tell me what a
Baronesses shoot is? </DIV>
<DIV>Thanks </DIV>
<DIV>Dante<BR><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 2/13/12, Ld.blackmoon <I><<A
href="mailto:ld.blackmoon@cox.net">ld.blackmoon@cox.net</A>></I></B>
wrote:<BR></DIV>
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Ld.blackmoon <<A
href="mailto:ld.blackmoon@cox.net">ld.blackmoon@cox.net</A>><BR>Subject:
Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Royal Huntsman Duties<BR>To: "Archery within
the Kingdom of Ansteorra" <<A
href="mailto:ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org">ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org</A>><BR>Date:
Monday, February 13, 2012, 9:14 PM<BR><BR>
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<DIV>greetings </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>thank you, as I expressed to her highness, I
believe the biggest bone of contention isn't that there is a combat
archery round , but that it is listed as the finals, so only combat
archers may win. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>if it were placed somewhere else, it would take
longer for the heavy weapons people to get armored, then un armored,
but if it were run as most other rh tourneys, ( double elim ) then the
target archers would at least stand a chance to win ( even though the
ikcac round does often cause a loss to some target archers , and an
ikcac / heavy weapons loss together would still get many archers
booted ).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>not all shoots need to be long range, there are
many skill shoots, as well as fun shoots done at close range. also
skills honed at close range take less time to move out to longer
ranges, ( its also easier to learn and practice form at close ranges )
, your right seeing the look in someone's eyes , no matter their age ,
when they hit their 1st target ,their 1st gold, get their 1st tassel,
its just amazing !!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I'm sure you succeed, as attitude is big part of
it, if the marshals expect to have fun, the shooters expect to have
fun, if people are hitting the target , its fun ; ) ( chasing arrows
... not so much )</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>northkeep normally has a full time range for the
castellan shoot,( possibly with a royal round range as well
) then several other shoots throughout the day, with a baronesses
shoot, a children's shoot, and a title shoot scheduled at different
times . </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun
.<BR>Arthur</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 13, 2012
7:44 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[Ansteorra-archery] Royal Huntsman Duties</DIV>
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face="Times New Roman">Thank you for your comments you have
expressed the thoughts of many of us. It would have been more
honest if the original notice had said only CA need apply and
anyone else who wants to shoot come early then go home.
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face="Times New Roman">You are right about usual tournaments
that try to get people involved and have fun. One of the
things we always try to do at Bryn Gwlad we try to have an
open shooting and invite experienced as well as new shooters
to enjoy an afternoon of shooting for fun. I always look and
hope other events have the same option as there is only so
much time I enjoy watching others in their activities. It is
so rewarding to see new people try archery and become hooked
on it. Sadly we do not have the space for any long shoots but
we try to still make it fun.</FONT>
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<DIV></DIV><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 2/13/12, Ld.blackmoon
<I><ld.blackmoon@cox.net></I></B> wrote:<BR>
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Ld.blackmoon <ld.blackmoon@cox.net><BR>Subject: Re:
[Ansteorra-archery] Royal Huntsman Duties<BR>To: "Archery
within the Kingdom of Ansteorra"
<ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org><BR>Date:
Monday, February 13, 2012, 7:11 PM<BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>greetings </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>to respond to two posts at
once.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>to iago ,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial> unless I am mistaken ( which is
entirely possible ) what you participated in was an ikcac
round , shooting at a combat target, not another
person.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>to Joey, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>you miss read the posted rules, the
best of the best " of the best " ( sorry couldn't
stop myself ) target archers will all be dropped in the
finals unless they are also combat archery authorized and
equipped, as the final round ( the round that determines the
winner is combat archery only ).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>as to being of a higher standard than
" just a target archer " unfortunately many people from
newbie to uber duke to bod members all feel that target
archery isn't of sufficient standing for many things, but if
you look , you will find that many many newbie's start their
sca play by becoming active in archery , then some move to
heavy, rapier, a/s etc. many people move to archery when
they can no longer physically chance ( or financially afford
) a busted arm, leg, back, etc.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>as to fighting for the crowns while
this is of great import while at war along side the other
heavy weapons styles, as well as the rapier styles, the "
royal huntsman " as pointed out in another post was charged
with helping feed all those soldiers both at home and on the
road to war ( salted / smoked meat would still go bad on a
long trip )</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>perhaps the answer lies in having both
a royal huntsman and an archer general ? but that
would be a discussion for those of higher stature than this
simple archer , but I digress.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>it has been spoken of that any may
drop out after the semi final round, I have done this on
several occasions, not because I would see our crowns
undefended, or because I stood no chance of winning, but
because I could not afford the travel required ( including
going to war ) and I did not feel it would be honorable to "
win " knowing that at most events and the war I would have
to ask someone else to " stand in " for
me. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial> this was a case of personal
honor, and is not to imply that anyone else may not have
been honorable in their filling of the position
.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>but cost is also one of the
obligations , as with any title / position at all levels of
the sca.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>but , while I do not believe that this
is good for either archery community, I did not intend that
anyone not go to the royal huntsman tourney wherever /
whenever it may be held.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>to the contrary , please do go, it has
always been the place to go see the best of the best ( as
well as those who hope to someday be among them ) compete
from all over the kingdom.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>at the royal huntsman tourney , you
will normally see the top flight archers compete in closely
scored rounds, you will normally see many marshals working
their buns off, and quite often see skill, courtly
graces,honor, and even chivalry upon the target archery
ranges. it's amazing what you can learn shooting alongside
the top flight archers of ansteorra ( most of us like to
teach ; )</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>if our tournaments are long and boring
, then we have no one to blame but ourselves.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>the mic, will always create tourneys
from what he/ she believes people want to compete in ,
and what he / she believes they can get marshals to
help him run.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>too long have we tried to make
everyone happy, with a one size fits all , archers tourney
for our championship titles, too long has it been common for
there to only be one tourney at each event, with maybe a
royal round thrown in for good measure, we should be holding
novice tourneys, championship tourneys, nobility tourneys
,title shoots,prize tourneys, you name it , at most
every event, as well as have a royal round / ikac range
that's open all day or at least most of the day, for
scores, fun, practice.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>we must make target archery something
people other than archers want to come see, and hopefully
even want to participate in....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>sorry, just this old farts opinion
again</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun
.<BR>Arthur</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday,
February 13, 2012 6:16 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[Ansteorra-archery] Royal Huntsman Duties</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I try to keep my mouth shut on this list
and just read, as I am more of a participant in archery,
and not one of the leaders. Sadly, I haven't been able to
participate much either.
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<DIV>I've only been able to participate in one Royal
Huntsman tournament before, and there was a combat archery
element in that one too. This is nothing new.</DIV>
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<DIV>Iago</DIV>
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<DIV>On Feb 13, 2012, at 3:43 PM, Chuck Kaun
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class=yiv1279299084Apple-style-span>That is why they
have a Champion in the armored martial arts, forcing
others to either do this or not play is
exclusionary. Another thing to think on, if only a
combat archer can win, who is to say that the next Royal
Huntsman wont have the same thoughts as you? Once
is precedent, twice can easily become
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