<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>To Arthur,</div><div><br></div><div>I completely agree with you. It would be nice to see more tournaments for some of the lesser skilled archers. Also trying to take to many opinions on how to run something that everyone will enjoy every aspect of, can ultimately get too confusing. In this you are right. But I did not misread the rules. I have spent time with Vincenti speaking to him about the pros and cons of his decision. I understand i will be dropped after the target portion of the tournament, but that wont stop me from trying to score as high as possible to knock out as many archers as i can :). And wether you are for or against the decision, we have to respect that it is his decision. everyone has a valid point on the matter, I only wish that it won't sway people away<br><br>There's a good <span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">reason why the other road is less traveled</span></div><div><br>On Feb 13, 2012, at 7:11 PM, "Ld.blackmoon" <<a href="mailto:ld.blackmoon@cox.net">ld.blackmoon@cox.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<div><font face="Arial">greetings </font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">to respond to two posts at once.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">to iago ,</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"> unless I am mistaken ( which is entirely possible )
what you participated in was an ikcac round , shooting at a combat target, not
another person.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">to Joey, </font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">you miss read the posted rules, the best of the best
" of the best " ( sorry couldn't stop myself ) target archers
will all be dropped in the finals unless they are also combat archery authorized
and equipped, as the final round ( the round that determines the winner is
combat archery only ).</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">as to being of a higher standard than " just a target
archer " unfortunately many people from newbie to uber duke to bod members all
feel that target archery isn't of sufficient standing for many things, but if
you look , you will find that many many newbie's start their sca play by
becoming active in archery , then some move to heavy, rapier, a/s etc. many
people move to archery when they can no longer physically chance ( or
financially afford ) a busted arm, leg, back, etc.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">as to fighting for the crowns while this is of great
import while at war along side the other heavy weapons styles, as well as the
rapier styles, the " royal huntsman " as pointed out in another post was charged
with helping feed all those soldiers both at home and on the road to war (
salted / smoked meat would still go bad on a long trip )</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">perhaps the answer lies in having both a royal huntsman
and an archer general ? but that would be a discussion for those of higher
stature than this simple archer , but I digress.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">it has been spoken of that any may drop out after the semi
final round, I have done this on several occasions, not because I would see our
crowns undefended, or because I stood no chance of winning, but because I could
not afford the travel required ( including going to war ) and I did not feel it
would be honorable to " win " knowing that at most events and the war I would
have to ask someone else to " stand in " for me. </font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"> this was a case of personal honor, and is not to
imply that anyone else may not have been honorable in their filling of the
position .</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">but cost is also one of the obligations , as with any
title / position at all levels of the sca.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">but , while I do not believe that this is good for either
archery community, I did not intend that anyone not go to the royal huntsman
tourney wherever / whenever it may be held.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">to the contrary , please do go, it has always been the
place to go see the best of the best ( as well as those who hope to someday be
among them ) compete from all over the kingdom.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">at the royal huntsman tourney , you will normally see the
top flight archers compete in closely scored rounds, you will normally see many
marshals working their buns off, and quite often see skill, courtly
graces,honor, and even chivalry upon the target archery ranges. it's amazing
what you can learn shooting alongside the top flight archers of ansteorra ( most
of us like to teach ; )</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">if our tournaments are long and boring , then we have no
one to blame but ourselves.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">the mic, will always create tourneys from what he/
she believes people want to compete in , and what he / she believes
they can get marshals to help him run.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">too long have we tried to make everyone happy, with a one
size fits all , archers tourney for our championship titles, too long has it
been common for there to only be one tourney at each event, with maybe a royal
round thrown in for good measure, we should be holding novice tourneys,
championship tourneys, nobility tourneys ,title shoots,prize tourneys, you
name it , at most every event, as well as have a royal round / ikac range that's
open all day or at least most of the day, for scores, fun,
practice.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">we must make target archery something people other than
archers want to come see, and hopefully even want to participate
in....</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">sorry, just this old farts opinion again</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun .<br>Arthur</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><b>From:</b>
<a title="baroniago@earthlink.net" href="mailto:baroniago@earthlink.net">Iago
Cabrera de Cadiz</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org" href="mailto:ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org">Archery within the Kingdom
of Ansteorra</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 13, 2012 6:16
PM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Royal
Huntsman Duties</div>
<div><br></div>I try to keep my mouth shut on this list and just read, as I am
more of a participant in archery, and not one of the leaders. Sadly, I haven't
been able to participate much either.
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<div>I've only been able to participate in one Royal Huntsman tournament
before, and there was a combat archery element in that one too. This is
nothing new.</div>
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<div>Iago</div>
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<div>On Feb 13, 2012, at 3:43 PM, Chuck Kaun wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
<blockquote type="cite"><span style="WIDOWS: 2; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; FONT: medium Helvetica; WHITE-SPACE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; LETTER-SPACING: normal; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px" class="Apple-style-span"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 13px" class="Apple-style-span">That is why they have a Champion in the armored
martial arts, forcing others to either do this or not play is
exclusionary. Another thing to think on, if only a combat archer can
win, who is to say that the next Royal Huntsman wont have the same thoughts
as you? Once is precedent, twice can easily become
tradition.<br> <br>Signing off of this topic,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br> <br>YIS,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br> <br>Karl
Thorgeirsson</span></span></blockquote></div><br></div>
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