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<DIV>greetings </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>although I'm looking at some retraining , since apparently
my back isn't going to let me do all the manual stuff I'm used to doing any
more. ( although I have fallen in love with my new tens unit : )</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I'm not very computer literate, though I am slowly
learning .</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I have tried to get people to send me details for shoots,
so that I could then make an addition to my web pages ( which are woefully in
need of updating ) , but gotten few responses.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I feel that if everyone is getting skill based tourneys
for their skill level we wont have so many marshals trying to not drop novice
archers till the last round of a title shoot, so it will go much quicker. and be
more enjoyable for all.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>my page used to be listed on the ansteorran archery pages
under links, but don't think it is anymore.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><A
href="http://www.blackmoonarchery.com">www.blackmoonarchery.com</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>if there is anything people want to see more info on I
will try to update and improve the web pages or as in the case of listing
shoots, I can add a page specifically for that as well .</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun .<BR>Arthur</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=tex_yankee2004@yahoo.com
href="mailto:tex_yankee2004@yahoo.com">Patrick R</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 13, 2012 10:46
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Royal
Huntsman Duties</DIV>
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face="Times New Roman">Thanks that sounds like a great idea a Baroness
shoot. It is not like there are not enough of them running around at
events. We have enough loaner equipment for them even if they don’t have
their own. I am sure we can come up with a prize for the winner maybe a
bow if she does not have one or a set of arrows if she has her own bow.
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face="Times New Roman">I would love to have an intermediate shooters
event so they can get some recognition for their achievement. Most
novice or intermediate shooters enjoy shooting in the competition but I
like the idea of an intermediate shoot. Have you considered something
like a yahoo group for archery were people can post ideas for shoots and
other resources we can use.</FONT>
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Ld.blackmoon <ld.blackmoon@cox.net><BR>Subject: Re:
[Ansteorra-archery] Royal Huntsman Duties<BR>To: "Archery within the
Kingdom of Ansteorra"
<ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org><BR>Date: Monday,
February 13, 2012, 9:51 PM<BR><BR>
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<DIV>greetings </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>all the attending ladies of baroness or higher
ranking are invited to come shoot at various targets, for score. at
this time I believe that the winner gets a prize basket and word fame
; ) ( but I could be wrong, since I'm trying to get more " prize
shoots " going. )</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>realistically I would like to get to a point
where there is no arrow chasing in a title shoot, if you cant hit the
target every time or at least be close, you shouldn't be competing in
a championship title tourney, but also if your shooting in the title
shoots, you shouldn't be shooting in the general populace prize shoots
either.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>but currently I see that there seems to be many
title shoots, a few novice or children's shoots, but nothing for those
in the middle, which again will take time to get people
motivated.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I really wish there was a central data base
people could add different shoots to so that anyone could try them ,
no matter what kingdom they were in, or what part of the
kingdom.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>again just my opinions ; )</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun
.<BR>Arthur</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 13, 2012
9:20 PM</DIV>
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[Ansteorra-archery] Royal Huntsman Duties</DIV>
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<DIV>Always looking for fun things to do so can you tell me
what a Baronesses shoot is? </DIV>
<DIV>Thanks </DIV>
<DIV>Dante<BR><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 2/13/12, Ld.blackmoon
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Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Royal Huntsman Duties<BR>To:
"Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra" <<A
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<DIV>greetings </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>thank you, as I expressed to her
highness, I believe the biggest bone of contention isn't
that there is a combat archery round , but that it is listed
as the finals, so only combat archers may win. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>if it were placed somewhere else, it
would take longer for the heavy weapons people to get
armored, then un armored, but if it were run as most other
rh tourneys, ( double elim ) then the target archers would
at least stand a chance to win ( even though the ikcac round
does often cause a loss to some target archers , and an
ikcac / heavy weapons loss together would still get many
archers booted ).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>not all shoots need to be long range,
there are many skill shoots, as well as fun shoots done at
close range. also skills honed at close range take less time
to move out to longer ranges, ( its also easier to learn and
practice form at close ranges ) , your right seeing the look
in someone's eyes , no matter their age , when they hit
their 1st target ,their 1st gold, get their 1st tassel, its
just amazing !!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I'm sure you succeed, as attitude is
big part of it, if the marshals expect to have fun, the
shooters expect to have fun, if people are hitting the
target , its fun ; ) ( chasing arrows ... not so much
)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>northkeep normally has a full time
range for the castellan shoot,( possibly with a royal round
range as well ) then several other shoots throughout
the day, with a baronesses shoot, a children's shoot, and a
title shoot scheduled at different times . </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun
.<BR>Arthur</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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Ansteorra</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday,
February 13, 2012 7:44 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[Ansteorra-archery] Royal Huntsman Duties</DIV>
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face="Times New Roman">Thank you for your comments
you have expressed the thoughts of many of us. It
would have been more honest if the original notice
had said only CA need apply and anyone else who
wants to shoot come early then go home. </FONT>
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face="Times New Roman">You are right about usual
tournaments that try to get people involved and have
fun. One of the things we always try to do at Bryn
Gwlad we try to have an open shooting and invite
experienced as well as new shooters to enjoy an
afternoon of shooting for fun. I always look and
hope other events have the same option as there is
only so much time I enjoy watching others in their
activities. It is so rewarding to see new people try
archery and become hooked on it. Sadly we do not
have the space for any long shoots but we try to
still make it fun.</FONT>
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<DIV></DIV><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 2/13/12, Ld.blackmoon
<I><ld.blackmoon@cox.net></I></B> wrote:<BR>
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<ld.blackmoon@cox.net><BR>Subject: Re:
[Ansteorra-archery] Royal Huntsman Duties<BR>To:
"Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra"
<ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org><BR>Date:
Monday, February 13, 2012, 7:11 PM<BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>greetings </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>to respond to two posts at
once.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>to iago ,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial> unless I am mistaken (
which is entirely possible ) what you participated
in was an ikcac round , shooting at a combat
target, not another person.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>to Joey, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>you miss read the posted
rules, the best of the best " of the
best " ( sorry couldn't stop myself
) target archers will all be dropped in the
finals unless they are also combat archery
authorized and equipped, as the final round ( the
round that determines the winner is combat archery
only ).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>as to being of a higher
standard than " just a target archer "
unfortunately many people from newbie to uber duke
to bod members all feel that target archery isn't
of sufficient standing for many things, but if you
look , you will find that many many newbie's start
their sca play by becoming active in archery ,
then some move to heavy, rapier, a/s etc. many
people move to archery when they can no longer
physically chance ( or financially afford ) a
busted arm, leg, back, etc.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>as to fighting for the
crowns while this is of great import while at war
along side the other heavy weapons styles, as well
as the rapier styles, the " royal huntsman " as
pointed out in another post was charged with
helping feed all those soldiers both at home and
on the road to war ( salted / smoked meat would
still go bad on a long trip )</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>perhaps the answer lies in
having both a royal huntsman and an archer general
? but that would be a discussion for those
of higher stature than this simple archer , but I
digress.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>it has been spoken of that
any may drop out after the semi final round, I
have done this on several occasions, not because I
would see our crowns undefended, or because I
stood no chance of winning, but because I could
not afford the travel required ( including going
to war ) and I did not feel it would be honorable
to " win " knowing that at most events and the war
I would have to ask someone else to " stand in "
for me. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial> this was a case of
personal honor, and is not to imply that anyone
else may not have been honorable in their filling
of the position .</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>but cost is also one of the
obligations , as with any title / position at all
levels of the sca.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>but , while I do not believe
that this is good for either archery community, I
did not intend that anyone not go to the royal
huntsman tourney wherever / whenever it may
be held.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>to the contrary , please do
go, it has always been the place to go see the
best of the best ( as well as those who hope to
someday be among them ) compete from all over the
kingdom.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>at the royal huntsman
tourney , you will normally see the top flight
archers compete in closely scored rounds, you will
normally see many marshals working their buns off,
and quite often see skill, courtly graces,honor,
and even chivalry upon the target archery ranges.
it's amazing what you can learn shooting alongside
the top flight archers of ansteorra ( most of us
like to teach ; )</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>if our tournaments are long
and boring , then we have no one to blame but
ourselves.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>the mic, will always create
tourneys from what he/ she believes people
want to compete in , and what he /
she believes they can get marshals to help
him run.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>too long have we tried to
make everyone happy, with a one size fits all ,
archers tourney for our championship titles, too
long has it been common for there to only be one
tourney at each event, with maybe a royal round
thrown in for good measure, we should be holding
novice tourneys, championship tourneys, nobility
tourneys ,title shoots,prize tourneys, you
name it , at most every event, as well as have a
royal round / ikac range that's open all day or at
least most of the day, for scores, fun,
practice.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>we must make target archery
something people other than archers want to come
see, and hopefully even want to participate
in....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>sorry, just this old farts
opinion again</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun
.<BR>Arthur</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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Monday, February 13, 2012 6:16 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Royal Huntsman
Duties</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I try to keep my mouth shut on
this list and just read, as I am more of a
participant in archery, and not one of the
leaders. Sadly, I haven't been able to
participate much either.
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<DIV>I've only been able to participate in one
Royal Huntsman tournament before, and there was
a combat archery element in that one too. This
is nothing new.</DIV>
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<DIV>Iago</DIV>
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<DIV>On Feb 13, 2012, at 3:43 PM, Chuck Kaun
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class=yiv840757584Apple-style-span>That is why
they have a Champion in the armored martial
arts, forcing others to either do this or not
play is exclusionary. Another thing to
think on, if only a combat archer can win, who
is to say that the next Royal Huntsman wont have
the same thoughts as you? Once is
precedent, twice can easily become
tradition.<BR> <BR>Signing off of this
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