<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><BR>I would never think such a thing, I have liked our Baronesses. well mostly<BR>--- On <B>Mon, 2/13/12, Chuck Kaun <I><jack_a_lope31@hotmail.com></I></B> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Chuck Kaun <jack_a_lope31@hotmail.com><BR>Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Royal Huntsman Duties<BR>To: ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org<BR>Date: Monday, February 13, 2012, 9:24 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=yiv171826360>
<STYLE><!--
#yiv171826360 .yiv171826360hmmessage P
{
margin:0px;padding:0px;}
#yiv171826360 body.yiv171826360hmmessage
{
font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;}
--></STYLE>
<DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>The obvious answer is the WRONG answer, you do not shoot baronesses :D<BR> <BR>Karl<BR> <BR><BR> <BR>
<DIV>
<DIV id=yiv171826360SkyDrivePlaceholder></DIV>
<HR id=yiv171826360stopSpelling>
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:20:41 -0800<BR>From: tex_yankee2004@yahoo.com<BR>To: ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org<BR>Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Royal Huntsman Duties<BR><BR>
<TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0>
<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top>
<DIV>Always looking for fun things to do so can you tell me what a Baronesses shoot is? </DIV>
<DIV>Thanks </DIV>
<DIV>Dante<BR><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 2/13/12, Ld.blackmoon <I><ld.blackmoon@cox.net></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Ld.blackmoon <ld.blackmoon@cox.net><BR>Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Royal Huntsman Duties<BR>To: "Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra" <ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org><BR>Date: Monday, February 13, 2012, 9:14 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=yiv171826360ecxyiv1279299084>
<DIV>
<DIV>greetings </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>thank you, as I expressed to her highness, I believe the biggest bone of contention isn't that there is a combat archery round , but that it is listed as the finals, so only combat archers may win. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>if it were placed somewhere else, it would take longer for the heavy weapons people to get armored, then un armored, but if it were run as most other rh tourneys, ( double elim ) then the target archers would at least stand a chance to win ( even though the ikcac round does often cause a loss to some target archers , and an ikcac / heavy weapons loss together would still get many archers booted ).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>not all shoots need to be long range, there are many skill shoots, as well as fun shoots done at close range. also skills honed at close range take less time to move out to longer ranges, ( its also easier to learn and practice form at close ranges ) , your right seeing the look in someone's eyes , no matter their age , when they hit their 1st target ,their 1st gold, get their 1st tassel, its just amazing !!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I'm sure you succeed, as attitude is big part of it, if the marshals expect to have fun, the shooters expect to have fun, if people are hitting the target , its fun ; ) ( chasing arrows ... not so much )</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>northkeep normally has a full time range for the castellan shoot,( possibly with a royal round range as well ) then several other shoots throughout the day, with a baronesses shoot, a children's shoot, and a title shoot scheduled at different times . </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun .<BR>Arthur</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir=ltr>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B> <A title=tex_yankee2004@yahoo.com href="http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tex_yankee2004%40yahoo.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank>Patrick R</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org href="http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ansteorra-archery%40lists.ansteorra.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank>Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 13, 2012 7:44 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Royal Huntsman Duties</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0>
<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top><BR>
<P class=yiv171826360ecxyiv1279299084MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">Arthur,</FONT>
<DIV></DIV>
<P class=yiv171826360ecxyiv1279299084MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </FONT>
<DIV></DIV>
<P class=yiv171826360ecxyiv1279299084MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">Thank you for your comments you have expressed the thoughts of many of us. It would have been more honest if the original notice had said only CA need apply and anyone else who wants to shoot come early then go home. </FONT>
<DIV></DIV>
<P class=yiv171826360ecxyiv1279299084MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </FONT>
<DIV></DIV>
<P class=yiv171826360ecxyiv1279299084MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">You are right about usual tournaments that try to get people involved and have fun. One of the things we always try to do at Bryn Gwlad we try to have an open shooting and invite experienced as well as new shooters to enjoy an afternoon of shooting for fun. I always look and hope other events have the same option as there is only so much time I enjoy watching others in their activities. It is so rewarding to see new people try archery and become hooked on it. Sadly we do not have the space for any long shoots but we try to still make it fun.</FONT>
<DIV></DIV>
<P class=yiv171826360ecxyiv1279299084MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </FONT>
<DIV></DIV>
<P class=yiv171826360ecxyiv1279299084MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">Dante</FONT>
<DIV></DIV><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 2/13/12, Ld.blackmoon <I><ld.blackmoon@cox.net></I></B> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Ld.blackmoon <ld.blackmoon@cox.net><BR>Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Royal Huntsman Duties<BR>To: "Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra" <ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org><BR>Date: Monday, February 13, 2012, 7:11 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=yiv171826360ecxyiv1279299084>
<STYLE>
</STYLE>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>greetings </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>to respond to two posts at once.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>to iago ,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial> unless I am mistaken ( which is entirely possible ) what you participated in was an ikcac round , shooting at a combat target, not another person.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>to Joey, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>you miss read the posted rules, the best of the best " of the best " ( sorry couldn't stop myself ) target archers will all be dropped in the finals unless they are also combat archery authorized and equipped, as the final round ( the round that determines the winner is combat archery only ).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>as to being of a higher standard than " just a target archer " unfortunately many people from newbie to uber duke to bod members all feel that target archery isn't of sufficient standing for many things, but if you look , you will find that many many newbie's start their sca play by becoming active in archery , then some move to heavy, rapier, a/s etc. many people move to archery when they can no longer physically chance ( or financially afford ) a busted arm, leg, back, etc.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>as to fighting for the crowns while this is of great import while at war along side the other heavy weapons styles, as well as the rapier styles, the " royal huntsman " as pointed out in another post was charged with helping feed all those soldiers both at home and on the road to war ( salted / smoked meat would still go bad on a long trip )</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>perhaps the answer lies in having both a royal huntsman and an archer general ? but that would be a discussion for those of higher stature than this simple archer , but I digress.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>it has been spoken of that any may drop out after the semi final round, I have done this on several occasions, not because I would see our crowns undefended, or because I stood no chance of winning, but because I could not afford the travel required ( including going to war ) and I did not feel it would be honorable to " win " knowing that at most events and the war I would have to ask someone else to " stand in " for me. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial> this was a case of personal honor, and is not to imply that anyone else may not have been honorable in their filling of the position .</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>but cost is also one of the obligations , as with any title / position at all levels of the sca.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>but , while I do not believe that this is good for either archery community, I did not intend that anyone not go to the royal huntsman tourney wherever / whenever it may be held.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>to the contrary , please do go, it has always been the place to go see the best of the best ( as well as those who hope to someday be among them ) compete from all over the kingdom.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>at the royal huntsman tourney , you will normally see the top flight archers compete in closely scored rounds, you will normally see many marshals working their buns off, and quite often see skill, courtly graces,honor, and even chivalry upon the target archery ranges. it's amazing what you can learn shooting alongside the top flight archers of ansteorra ( most of us like to teach ; )</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>if our tournaments are long and boring , then we have no one to blame but ourselves.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>the mic, will always create tourneys from what he/ she believes people want to compete in , and what he / she believes they can get marshals to help him run.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>too long have we tried to make everyone happy, with a one size fits all , archers tourney for our championship titles, too long has it been common for there to only be one tourney at each event, with maybe a royal round thrown in for good measure, we should be holding novice tourneys, championship tourneys, nobility tourneys ,title shoots,prize tourneys, you name it , at most every event, as well as have a royal round / ikac range that's open all day or at least most of the day, for scores, fun, practice.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>we must make target archery something people other than archers want to come see, and hopefully even want to participate in....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>sorry, just this old farts opinion again</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun .<BR>Arthur</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir=ltr>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B> <A title=baroniago@earthlink.net href="http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=baroniago%40earthlink.net" rel=nofollow target=_blank>Iago Cabrera de Cadiz</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org href="http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ansteorra-archery%40lists.ansteorra.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank>Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 13, 2012 6:16 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Royal Huntsman Duties</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I try to keep my mouth shut on this list and just read, as I am more of a participant in archery, and not one of the leaders. Sadly, I haven't been able to participate much either.
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I've only been able to participate in one Royal Huntsman tournament before, and there was a combat archery element in that one too. This is nothing new.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Iago</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR>
<DIV>
<DIV>On Feb 13, 2012, at 3:43 PM, Chuck Kaun wrote:</DIV><BR class=yiv171826360ecxyiv1279299084Apple-interchange-newline>
<BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN style="WIDOWS: 2; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; FONT: medium Helvetica; WHITE-SPACE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); WORD-SPACING: 0px" class=yiv171826360ecxyiv1279299084Apple-style-span><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 13px" class=yiv171826360ecxyiv1279299084Apple-style-span>That is why they have a Champion in the armored martial arts, forcing others to either do this or not play is exclusionary. Another thing to think on, if only a combat archer can win, who is to say that the next Royal Huntsman wont have the same thoughts as you? Once is precedent, twice can easily become tradition.<BR> <BR>Signing off of this topic,<SPAN class=yiv171826360ecxyiv1279299084Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR> <BR>YIS,<SPAN class=yiv171826360ecxyiv1279299084Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR> <BR>Karl
Thorgeirsson</SPAN></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>
<HR>
<DIV></DIV>_______________________________________________<BR>Ansteorra-archery mailing list<BR>Ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org<BR>http://lists.ansteorra.org/listinfo.cgi/ansteorra-archery-ansteorra.org<BR>
<DIV>
<HR>
<DIV></DIV><A rel=nofollow></A>
<P align=left>No virus found in this message.<BR>Checked by AVG - <A href="http://www.avg.com/" rel=nofollow target=_blank>www.avg.com</A><BR>Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4777 - Release Date: 01/30/12<BR>Internal Virus Database is out of date.</DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV><BR>-----Inline Attachment Follows-----<BR><BR>
<DIV class=yiv171826360ecxyiv1279299084plainMail>_______________________________________________<BR>Ansteorra-archery mailing list<BR><A href="http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Ansteorra-archery%40lists.ansteorra.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank>Ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org</A><BR><A href="http://lists.ansteorra.org/listinfo.cgi/ansteorra-archery-ansteorra.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://lists.ansteorra.org/listinfo.cgi/ansteorra-archery-ansteorra.org</A><BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<DIV>
<HR>
<DIV></DIV>_______________________________________________<BR>Ansteorra-archery mailing list<BR>Ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org<BR>http://lists.ansteorra.org/listinfo.cgi/ansteorra-archery-ansteorra.org<BR>
<DIV>
<HR>
<DIV></DIV><A rel=nofollow></A>
<P align=left>No virus found in this message.<BR>Checked by AVG - <A href="http://www.avg.com/" rel=nofollow target=_blank>www.avg.com</A><BR>Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4777 - Release Date: 01/30/12<BR>Internal Virus Database is out of date.</DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV><BR>-----Inline Attachment Follows-----<BR><BR>
<DIV class=yiv171826360ecxplainMail>_______________________________________________<BR>Ansteorra-archery mailing list<BR><A href="http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Ansteorra-archery%40lists.ansteorra.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank>Ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org</A><BR><A href="http://lists.ansteorra.org/listinfo.cgi/ansteorra-archery-ansteorra.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://lists.ansteorra.org/listinfo.cgi/ansteorra-archery-ansteorra.org</A><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR>_______________________________________________ Ansteorra-archery mailing list Ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org http://lists.ansteorra.org/listinfo.cgi/ansteorra-archery-ansteorra.org</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV><BR>-----Inline Attachment Follows-----<BR><BR>
<DIV class=plainMail>_______________________________________________<BR>Ansteorra-archery mailing list<BR><A href="http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org" ymailto="mailto:Ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org">Ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org</A><BR><A href="http://lists.ansteorra.org/listinfo.cgi/ansteorra-archery-ansteorra.org" target=_blank>http://lists.ansteorra.org/listinfo.cgi/ansteorra-archery-ansteorra.org</A><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></td></tr></table>