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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>greetings </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>yep, one day its were just another heavy weapons type, the
next its but were all just archers . which ever serves what they want at that
moment : /</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>there are combat archers that have never set foot on a
range, there are target archers have never set foot on a field of war , then
there's the middle group, that dances back and forth .</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>and doesn't want to admit that you can't be in two places
at once </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I don't see a problem with anyone learning and
mastering either or both weapons forms.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>the problems seem to arise when people try to combine
them. " yea the target range is a great big open place it would be perfect for
an archers battle , they don't need it all the time" .</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>instead of " there's an unused field at this
upcoming event , why don't we ask the autocrat if we can set up an archers
battle and see who comes to play ?? maybe even have loaner gear and authorizing
marshals so new people can give it a try ""</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I'm sorry , I'm tired,I hurt , and even at the best
of times I'm not very good at communicating well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>so I'm going to say good night, sleep well
and</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun .<BR>Arthur</FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=arwemakere@gmail.com href="mailto:arwemakere@gmail.com">Bill Tait</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org
href="mailto:ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org">Archery within the Kingdom
of Ansteorra</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:33
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Ansteorra-archery] While
were shaking things up ...</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>SNIP</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>the problem seems to be that the combat archers want
to straddle the fence , and have the best of both worlds, instead of
deciding to follow one path or the other.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Straddle a fence? I always thought people should do as many things as
well as they can. Broaden horizons, etc.</DIV>
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<DIV>William - who must be an exceptional fence sitter. OW! :D</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>but as you say each crown will make its own choices
.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>the current rules are set.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>please go , have fun , whether that's watching ,
shooting ,marshaling or just visiting with friends you haven't seen in
a while .</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial> Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun
.<BR>Arthur</FONT><FONT face=Arial></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B> <A
title=donnchadh@cornelius.norman.ok.us
href="mailto:donnchadh@cornelius.norman.ok.us" target=_blank>Donnchadh
Beag mac Griogair</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org
href="mailto:ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org" target=_blank>Archery
within the Kingdom of Ansteorra</A> </DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 15, 2012
10:05 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Ansteorra-archery]
While were shaking things up ...</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>If we take it as a given that both sides of the archery
community, target and combat, are both of equal value, then it could be
said that combat archery has been given the shaft (buh dum bum) for a
number of years. In most other RH tourneys, there was use of CA
equipment, but the final round was target archery.
<BR><BR><restating Karl's argument from the other point of
view><BR>And if you cant play TA, you are replaced by someone who you
may have just defeated. So it really wouldnt matter how hard
you practiced would it? You could hit every single faceshot, get a
kill shot on Uber Duke past his shield while he's running you down and
were the greatest archer since Ghengis Kahn, you still WILL NOT WIN unless
you can shoot target archery in the final rounds.
<BR><end><BR><BR>This one time, the roles are reversed.
Personally, I love both aspects of archery so I don't care much which
format is in the final rounds. I do like the idea that the archery
champion of our Kingdom can represent BOTH sides of the community.
That doesn't mean there is anything inherently wrong with people who do
only target archery or only combat archery, but if we are going to have
one person to champion all of archery, shouldn't it be someone who is at
least familiar with both? After all, this is not just a tourney to
be won for personal glory, but a job with responsibilities to the Crown
and the rest of the community (and yes those responsibilities change
depending on the Crown).<BR><BR>Just my thoughts,<BR>Donnchadh<BR><BR>On
2/15/2012 12:16 PM, Chuck Kaun wrote:
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<DIV dir=ltr>You should maybe read those tourney rules again. He
didnt say final round, he said final round(s). As in everything
after the drop out. And if you cant play CA, you are replaced by
someone who you may have just defeated. So it really wouldnt
matter how hard you practiced would it? You could hit every single
bullseye, shoot the eye out of a swinging mouse and shoot twenty arrows
in a speed round into the gold and were the greatest archer since Robin
Hood, you still WILL NOT WIN unless you can shoot combat archery in the
final rounds. <BR> <BR>Doesnt sound the same
anymore, <BR> <BR>What I wanted is that we dont leave the
target archers who dont wish to play CA out in the cold. I want
for all to see their time in the sun. <BR> <BR>
<DIV>nuff said, </DIV>
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<DIV>Karl</DIV><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV></DIV>
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