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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>greetings </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>your right in that missile activities need to have better
presence at events, but not just by having more shoot time.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>the throwers and shooters need to be more visible.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>entering a&s items, working set up / take down / gate
/autocrating / holding offices other than just missile marshal / wearing
missile related garb / etc .</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>part of the problem is to a lot of people we are still
seen as " those people over there " not " the missile comunity " or even "
the archers " because we as a community don't go out and do things very
often.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>if your local event or kingdom event doesn't have
archery ( for whatever reason ) we should be jumping on the chance to go and
help as a group ( gate / parking/ clean up / feast / nobles luncheon / something
sponsored by the missile comunity ) if its a colegium event teach classes on
missile related things . be seen as missile participants helping the local group
and the sca. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>i started learning to make bows in order to someday start
giving them as prizes in our title shoots. ( i don't think i'm good enough yet ,
but i'm getting closer. )</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>we as a group are usualy very good at making our own gear
( quivers, arrows, bolts, arm guards, etc.) why are these not in more
prize baskets ??</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>anyway , i better go gotta get ready for
class</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun .<BR>Arthur</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=tex_yankee2004@yahoo.com
href="mailto:tex_yankee2004@yahoo.com">Patrick R</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org
href="mailto:ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org">Archery within the Kingdom
of Ansteorra</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:59
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Royal
Rounds at Events</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Last fall we had our first
Royal Round as part of our fall baronial. It helps our Baron is an archer and
wanted to include Royal Rounds in the scoring to determine the finalists. We
were given the ground we needed and it all went well. Of course that is not
the normal since most events have a time schedule that gets all messed up
right after morning court. While I enjoy running tournaments, the most
rewarding thing to me is the open shooting time we include in our events. With
our loaner equipment people will stop by and try archery for the first time
and in many cases be hooked on it for good. We are lucky to have several
marshals as well as visiting marshals who volunteer to help since the range is
running most of the day. We invite people to complete Royal Rounds during the
open shoot and to my surprise it is not that difficult to incorporate. My
point is include an open shoot time and if you have the land (and some
marshalling help) it is fairly easy to include Royal rounds most of the day.
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>As a community we need to
become more of a presence at events. Push it at the gate and pester the
Heralds to push it during the event. Have people walking around with bows and
getting people to come to your open shoot. Since we are the priority for most
events we lose the time battle. Every time court runs long by either an overly
talkative crown, late arrival or hung over we are the event that suffers. I
try to push to have an open shoot time before the tournament just in case
since if we are scheduled to run 10-12 and court was runs an hour over causing
us to start at 11 we are still expected to be finished by 12 in many cases. I
have been to events where the competition was reduced from two hours to one
because of time and another that was cut short because one shooter was needed
to go to the Noble’s lunch (he did not want to go but they forced the
completion to end) and the irony is the event was a bear pit that ran less
than an hour and a half. If we become a presence we will get more respect and
more resources at events. If you are running an event please put out a notice
and ask if there are any marshals who would like to help you on the range.
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Dante</DIV>
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face=Arial><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Kathy Goeke
<kathygoeke@yahoo.com><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Archery within the Kingdom of
Ansteorra <ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org> <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, April 16, 2013 1:22
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
[Ansteorra-archery] Royal Rounds at Events<BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>Greetings Archers,</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>I haven't been active for a while due to other obligations, but I'd
like to offer my perspective and perhaps an idea or two. </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>Space is always an issue for archery events. We either have
to be way out of the center of activity if we want to "keep to our own
schedule," or be willing to be boxed into the time frames of other events if
we want to be right in the mix of things. Many sites, including
Castleton where I have run/helped run several events, barely have enough room
to adhere to safety protocols. While I'd love to see more of our archers on
the RR list, I would prefer not to have to shoot a short course and enter
zeroes just to get on the list. I don't think that represents us in the
best light. </SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>Archery tournaments, by their very nature, take up a lot of
time. In the best of situations, it's nearly impossible to attend an
event as an archer, and still have time to participate in or spectate events
on the rest of the site. Court may very well be the first time during the day
we get to mingle with everyone else. </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>Despite our best attempts at trying to format tourneys designed to
integrate players from other venues, it seems that many players are NOT trying
to be jacks of all trades. They attend to fight, or fence, or shoot, or
socialize -- but don't try to do it all in one day. In
BG we've </SPAN><SPAN>offered RR on Sunday mornings and no one
showed up. Let's face it, after the crush of the day that Saturday always is,
who has anything left to give on Sunday, other than clearing site and getting
home to crash.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>I think one of our problems is that the events where you are
most likely to find archery are "all or nothing" outdoor events that include
every form of mayhem we offer in the SCA. Not all Society events are
like this, though. There are events specifically for A&S, Kings
College, dance, feasts, etc. </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>Why not offer more events that are strictly archery events? I
know the calendar is very full already, but this could have several
advantages:</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>1. Ranges and range spaces are available that, while adequate for
archery and RR, wouldn't have to accommodate every manner of pavilion, yurt,
horse trailer, and parking that a full event does. Since the draw would
be mainly for archers, perhaps only a portion of a site would need to be
reserved, rather than an entire park. </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>2. Scheduling would be easier as all the other site events
wouldn't have to be coordinated around each other. </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>3. Participation could be increased since players wouldn't
have to choose between myriad activities all in one day.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>4. Event could offer workshops on arrow-building, bow making,
shooting techniques and lessons, etc.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>Just my two cents,</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>Katherine</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>Former Branch Marshal of Bryn Gwlad</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Doug Copley
<doug.copley@gmail.com><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Archery within the Kingdom of
Ansteorra <ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org> <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, April 16, 2013 11:43
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>
[Ansteorra-archery] Royal Rounds at Events<BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>Not as many being shot: Why?
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<DIV>Several years ago I remember going to an event shooting Archery, doing
thrown weapons, having fun. In the evening we would go to Court and people
would say "Oh, did you you guys just get here?" they would announce the
Archery Champion and people would say "There was Archery?"</DIV>
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<DIV>This was all because we were put as far away from everything as possible.
Another problem with this was that we would rarely get waterbearing support,
when we put people in for awards people would say who are they and why don't
they come to events?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Over the last several years we have worked to move Archery and Thrown
Weapons closer to the main activities and Archers are now being seen and
recognized.</DIV>
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<DIV>Now the problem is that since we are up at the front we can't setup the
range and leave it operating all day. We are being given a 2 hour time frame
for adult and 1 hour for children's shoots.</DIV>
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<DIV>We have to be aware of the site layout and the schedule of activities.
Would it be nice to have more Royal Rounds shot . . . Absolutely! Now we
just have to figure out how:-)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Maybe moving the range back away from the main center just a little bit
(will this hurt what we have accomplished?)? Allowing some time early Sunday
morning, 9am to 11am? Accepting, that we will not always be able to shoot
RRs at events?</DIV>
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