<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>How about trying something that I have been doing whenever I authorize any new Thrown Weapons Marshals, I give them a pendant that is made out of a piece of leather with the Thrown Weapons symbol on it. I still tell them though that they should have a Marshaling staff of some sort out on the range with them at all times though. I would be afraid of a sash getting caught up in my clothes whenever I was doing a throw and/or a shoot. Just my two cents!!!</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>For the Honor,</span></div><div><span>Lord Lochlan Shaw</span></div><div><span>Deputy Kingdom Missile Marshal for Thrown Weapons</span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size:
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charset="iso-8859-1"<br><br>I am in agreement with HL Cian, let those who wish to try it out do so.<br><br><br>Ld. Francois de Lions<br><br><br>On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Ld. Cian Rhys Gravenor <<br><a href="mailto:metaldog00@hotmail.com" ymailto="mailto:metaldog00@hotmail.com">metaldog00@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>> Misgivings aside I would like to give it a try. I agree it shouldn't be<br>> mandatory as well. Anyone who would like to experiment with should be<br>> encouraged to so. Maybe try it out on your local archers first I see what<br>> they think about it. And maybe at the next major event comes up give it a<br>> real trial run.<br>><br>> Any one who doesn't want to participate in this experiment shouldn't feel<br>> pressured to do anything but those who do shouldn't be discouraged from<br>> trying. I appreciate the initiative.<br>><br>> HL Cian<br>><br>><br>><br>> Sent from my
iPhone<br>><br>> On May 28, 2013, at 1:30 PM, "Harry Billings" <<a href="mailto:humble_archer@hotmail.com" ymailto="mailto:humble_archer@hotmail.com">humble_archer@hotmail.com</a>><br>> wrote:<br>><br>> just because you are a marshal does not mean that you should be or are<br>> even wanted to be inspecting equipment for a shoot, the fewer inspectors<br>> the less likely some thing the MiC does not like want getting into the<br>> shoot.<br>><br>> plachoya<br>> Ansteorra<br>><br>><br>> This is a bad idea and won't work for reasons too long to list<br>> here, just a waste of time, effort and resources!<br>><br>> Get smart and ask any archer on the range whom is inspecting<br>> when you arrive and they should be able to point you toward that<br>> person(s) and please courteous, arrive early to enough to get<br>> inspected without the marshal having to rush you through it or<br>>
delay starting their tournament!<br>><br>> Ironwyrm<br>><br>><br>><br>> I do have to give full credit to Faolan for the idea of the arrow<br>> through the head.<br>><br>> -JP<br>><br>><br>> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Patrick R <<a href="mailto:tex_yankee2004@yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:tex_yankee2004@yahoo.com">tex_yankee2004@yahoo.com</a><<a href="http://us.mc1814.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tex_yankee2004%40yahoo.com" target="_blank">http://us.mc1814.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tex_yankee2004%40yahoo.com</a>><br>> > wrote:<br>><br>> I like that so much better than the sash. The MIC can have a brass tip.<br>><br>> **<br>><br>> On May 28, 2013, at 6:02 AM, "Ld.blackmoon" <<a href="mailto:ld.blackmoon@cox.net" ymailto="mailto:ld.blackmoon@cox.net">ld.blackmoon@cox.net</a><<a href="http://us.mc1814.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ld.blackmoon%40cox.net"
target="_blank">http://us.mc1814.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ld.blackmoon%40cox.net</a>>><br>> wrote:<br>><br>> greetings<br>><br>> biggest problem could be getting people to actually wear them : /<br>><br>><br>><br>> Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun .<br>> Arthur<br>> a.org<br>> <a href="http://lists.ansteorra.org/listinfo.cgi/ansteorra-archery-ansteorra.org" target="_blank">http://lists.ansteorra.org/listinfo.cgi/ansteorra-archery-ansteorra.org</a><br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>><br>> Ansteorra-archery mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:Ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org" ymailto="mailto:Ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org">Ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org</a><br>> <a href="http://lists.ansteorra.org/listinfo.cgi/ansteorra-archery-ansteorra.org"
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charset="iso-8859-1"<br><br>I think the point to latch on to with this sash idea is that we are expanding the already existing precedent of the white/yellow or black/yellow stripes that generally signify a marshal on a rapier, chivalric, or melee field. ?Most non-archery marshals don't wear a full-out black and yellow tabbard. ?However, they do generally carry a striped staff which allows people to visually identify them as marshals (it also helps keeps fighters within the boundaries). ?Since archery marshals generally don't require a shepherd's hook, a visual indicator --the sash-- will be sufficient to expand the "I'm a marshal" precedent. ?Too, few people wear striped sashes. ?That in and of itself would set a marshal apart from the usual event or archery range attendee.<br>?<br>kolfinna in kyrra Otarsdottir<br>Kira S. Langsjoen<br><br><br><br>________________________________<br> From: Ld.blackmoon <<a href="mailto:ld.blackmoon@cox.net"
ymailto="mailto:ld.blackmoon@cox.net">ld.blackmoon@cox.net</a>><br>To: Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra <<a href="mailto:ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org" ymailto="mailto:ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org">ansteorra-archery@lists.ansteorra.org</a>> <br>Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 10:45 AM<br>Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Marshal Sash Idea<br> <br><br><br>greetings <br>?<br>like many things in the sca, people will start off all <br>excited, then after a while , start getting bored, or tired, or half a hundred <br>other " reasons " .<br>( how many field heralds do you see wearing their tabbards <br>to make announcements across site throughout the day ? )<br>i know the north has a large percentage of archers that <br>are also marshals.<br>so i would wonder , how many of them would wear a marshals <br>tabbard all day ?? how many only in the morning before the days shooting started <br>? <br>and how many would " forget " them in
camp, or at home, <br>etc. ( for what ever reason? )<br>?<br>and then you have multiple " other " questions to ask <br>about the tabbards ... will there be a specified " dealer " people have to buy <br>them from ? <br>will they all be identical ?<br>what materials should be used ?? too thick and you <br>roast in the ansteorran heat , too thin and they will fade , or tear easily <br>....<br>what dyes are to be used ? will they bleed all over <br>peoples garb?, from sweat or rain ??<br>just for a few.<br>?<br>and then , just because it seems odd to me, i have to <br>ask... since the sca is supposed to be a " social " group, where people learn by <br>speaking to others, and doing with others..<br>?<br>when someone approaches the ranges , do marshals no longer <br>greet them and ask if they would like their?equipment inspected <br>??<br>do mic's no longer step forth and announce the <br>rules?for each shoot ??<br>have the marshals all forgotten that we
perform a?" <br>service " to the missile community , as well as our local and regional groups, <br>and yes even the kingdom and society? levels, since we help keep a large <br>number of people active in the sca. ??<br>?<br>ok, the old fart will climb down off his soap box, and go <br>back to school work.<br>not trying to psss anyone off, just expressing my opinion <br>, between rounds of networking fundamentals , and ubuntu : /<br>?<br>Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun <br>.<br>Arthur?<br>----- Original Message ----- <br>>From: Ld. Cian Rhys Gravenor <br>>To: Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra <br>>Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 6:23 AM<br>>Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Marshal Sash Idea<br>><br>><br>>I some how doubt that.?<br>><br>><br>>Cian<br>><br>>Sent from my iPhone<br>><br>>On May 28, 2013, at 6:02 AM, "Ld.blackmoon" <<a href="mailto:ld.blackmoon@cox.net"
ymailto="mailto:ld.blackmoon@cox.net">ld.blackmoon@cox.net</a>> wrote:<br>><br>><br>> <br>>>greetings <br>>>?<br>>>?biggest problem could be getting people to actually wear them : /<br>>>?<br>>>?<br>>>?<br>>>Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun .<br>>>Arthur<br>>>----- Original Message ----- <br>>>>From: Amber Bayles <br>>>>To: Ansteorra archery <br>>>>Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 9:58 PM<br>>>>Subject: [Ansteorra-archery] Marshal Sash Idea<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>>I would like to have an easier way for archers to figure out who is a marshal on archery ranges. For one thing it will help them find people who can inspect their equipment. My idea is a sash striped yellow and black like a marshal staff. There can be something different to mark the marshal in charge and any marshals in
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